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Old 01-23-2021, 04:12 PM
 
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Trump set up shell companies and dark money groups to fund the protests/riots. They still left a trail as members of Trump's campaign had applied for permits with the National Park Service. They've disclosed paying $ 2.7 million to people involved in the protests. There's considerably more money involved as his campaign also funneled money to the PACs.

The Democrats' PACs actually outraised the Republicans' for this election, 15 to 14 billion dollars.
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Old 01-23-2021, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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That's why they call it 'dark money'.
Well, gee. If it wasn't for the conservative wing of the SCOTUS we wouldn't be discussing this issue.

The fact that the democrats don't want it to be legal doesn't mean they don't realize that with the current rules you can't win without it.
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Old 01-23-2021, 04:31 PM
 
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Well, gee. If it wasn't for the conservative wing of the SCOTUS we wouldn't be discussing this issue.

The fact that the democrats don't want it to be legal doesn't mean they don't realize that with the current rules you can't win without it.
Trump's 2016 campaign was self funded.
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Old 01-23-2021, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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All money needs to be taken out of politics including political contributions, kickbacks, etc. It should be like in football where there is a spending cap and each candidate gets an equal share, and none of them are allowed to keep any for themselves. I could make a presidential run, get a few million in donations, and retire. Wouldn't that be nice? Oh well, why get upset at the rules of the game.. I need to do a better job playing the game and gaming the system like the haves. Damn conservative principles.
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Old 01-23-2021, 05:59 PM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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Trump's 2016 campaign was self funded.
No, not entirely. He put up a bunch of money, but he did not entirely self fund it.
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Old 01-23-2021, 06:01 PM
 
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I don't care. I voted 3rd party, so neither Trump or Biden got my vote.
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Old 01-23-2021, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Trump's 2016 campaign was self funded.
Give...me...a...Break!!! As stingy as Trump is with his money?

He's a far, far, far cry from the successful Billionaire Bloomberg, who could easily fund his own campaign!
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Old 01-23-2021, 06:07 PM
 
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Give...me...a...Break!!! As stingy as Trump is with his money?

He's a far, far, far cry from the successful Billionaire Bloomberg, who could easily fund his own campaign!
What makes you think Trump is stingy? Here's an example from Wikpedia:

Financial problems
In June 2008, it was announced that McMahon was $644,000 behind on payments on $4.8 million in mortgage loans and was fighting to avoid foreclosure on his multimillion-dollar Beverly Hills home.[19] McMahon was also sued by Citibank for $180,000. McMahon appeared on Larry King Live on June 5, 2008, with his wife to talk about this situation. In the interview, McMahon's wife Pam said that people assumed that the McMahons had a lot of money because of his celebrity status. Pamela McMahon also commented that they do not have "millions" of dollars.[20] On July 30, 2008, McMahon's financial status suffered another blow. McMahon failed to pay divorce attorney Norman Solovay $275,168, according to a lawsuit filed in the Manhattan federal court. McMahon and his wife, Pamela, had hired Solovay to represent Linda Schmerge, his daughter from another relationship, in a "matrimonial matter", said Solovay's lawyer, Michael Shanker.[21]

On August 14, 2008, real estate mogul Donald Trump announced that he would purchase McMahon's home from Countrywide Financial and lease it to McMahon, so the home would not be foreclosed.[22] McMahon agreed instead to a deal with a private buyer for his hilltop home, said Howard Bragman, McMahon's former spokesman.[23] Bragman declined to name the buyer or the selling price, but he said it was not Trump. In early September, after the second buyer's offer fell through, Trump renewed his offer to purchase the home.[24]
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