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Old 01-24-2021, 11:06 PM
 
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The LGBT issue is a line in a sand for these people and they will not tolerate a society that doesn't enforce their views on issues like gender and sexuality. 1-6-21 shows how far they are willing to go. The fact most are passively supporting the insurrection by immediately shifting the conversation to BLM really shows how much closer to a theofascist takeover we are in this country. Despite all the flag waving and patriotism after 9/11, that all went out the window the moment we elected a black President and legalized same-sex marriage. To about 30% of the country, America is Sodom and Gomorrah and the only way it can be saved is by a violent overthrow of the government and forced return to Christian (i.e. Victorian era) values.
This is completely made up nonsense.

Why do you think LGBT is the number one issue for Christians? It’s not even in my top 25 of issues other than that I wish the left would stop shoving it down everyone’s throats.

Also Christian values do not equal Victorian era values.

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Old 01-24-2021, 11:29 PM
 
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You can try to justify it by saying that it's payback for what the left did over the summer looting and burning businesses (though it wasn't the "left" doing that and Biden denounced the violence, but you don't care). In reality, this gets us closer to a religious coup and the institution of a theocratic fascist regime such as those depicted in fiction like 'V for Vendetta' or 'A Handmaid's Tale' or what currently exists in Iran or Saudi Arabia.

We very much could have our own ISIS brewing in this country. Growing up in a church that preached that we'd literally have a civil war if same-sex marriage was ever legalized, I have to say absolutely nothing going on right now surprises me.

The LGBT issue is a line in a sand for these people and they will not tolerate a society that doesn't enforce their views on issues like gender and sexuality. 1-6-21 shows how far they are willing to go. The fact most are passively supporting the insurrection by immediately shifting the conversation to BLM really shows how much closer to a theofascist takeover we are in this country. Despite all the flag waving and patriotism after 9/11, that all went out the window the moment we elected a black President and legalized same-sex marriage. To about 30% of the country, America is Sodom and Gomorrah and the only way it can be saved is by a violent overthrow of the government and forced return to Christian (i.e. Victorian era) values.

That, to me, is terrifying. When it becomes in the name of God, anything can be justified. This is exactly why tying religion to political ideology is so dangerous and why the founders wanted separation of church and state.

P.S. This does not apply to ALL conservatives or Christians. If you support what happened on 1-6-21, it applies.
Well Obama was the most anti-Christian president we've had so of course, evangelicals were not happy with him. You take issue with us wanting to "enforce" a moral standard yet have no problem when same sex marriage was "enforced" on us and Christian businesses were arm twisted to cast their beliefs aside and embrace an immoral union that is an offense to God or be punished. With your reasoning, why should our society have any moral standard at all as long as it doesn't harm people? Why not legalize prostitution or assisted suicide? Yet by lighting the White House up in rainbow colors, Obama was creating more unnecessary division and only added to it by supporting seeking to rooting Christianity out of the public square like banning chaplains in the military and spitting in the face of Israel, one of our greatest allies and friends in the Middle East.


Faith is an important and necessary part of our lives and it is often the only source of comfort when tragedy strikes. I don't know of any Christians that supported the disgraceful actions of the rioters on capitol or wish to see people get hurt and buildings destroyed. Your post is just scape goating baseless nosense.
 
Old 01-24-2021, 11:35 PM
 
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You hit home. In another thread, I explained why some Americans won't ever accept Biden as president and it's not because they think the election is stolen but because he was raised a Roman Catholic and these same people have a nasty, bigoted bias against Catholics. What DJT has revealed in the last four years is that hatred, bigotry, and intolerance is still pervasive in our society. Some still dip their hands into conspiracies and accuse others of heresy as if it is still 1692 and of course without solid, scientific proof. The new administration has to work hard to educate the American public not to simply judge books by their covers if you know what I mean.
Per the bolded ---So very wrong. It was Obama who revealed all that.
 
Old 01-24-2021, 11:39 PM
 
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Well Obama was the most anti-Christian president we've had so of course, evangelicals were not happy with him.
Then why did he have a Catholic Vice President? The original Christians?

And Obama himself was evangelical Christian.

So no, the WASPs didn’t have a reason to hate him because of his religion, it was something else.
 
Old 01-24-2021, 11:56 PM
 
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Then why did he have a Catholic Vice President? The original Christians?

And Obama himself was evangelical Christian.

So no, the WASPs didn’t have a reason to hate him because of his religion, it was something else.
Not too many evangelicals go the church of G_d_ America.

https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Democ...4443788&page=1

Voters looked the other way and voted for Obama anyway, only to discover he was a fake Christian that did hold the anti-America and racist beliefs of his pastor Rev. Wright.
 
Old 01-24-2021, 11:59 PM
 
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your dad made you hear his sermon in church before you hit the bong today, eh?
 
Old 01-25-2021, 12:05 AM
 
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Not too many evangelicals go the church of G_d_ America.
Actually yes they do, that kind of fire and brimstone against even their own is very much a hallmark of evangelical churches. You must not know much about evangelicals.
 
Old 01-25-2021, 12:19 AM
 
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Actually yes they do, that kind of fire and brimstone against even their own is very much a hallmark of evangelical churches. You must not know much about evangelicals.
But they don't make it specifically about anti-Americanism, how it's more "evil" than other nations, and race like Obama's life long pastor and Obama himself. He really was the Manchurian President.
 
Old 01-25-2021, 12:20 AM
 
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You are obsessed with Christians and need therapy. Seriously.
 
Old 01-25-2021, 12:28 AM
 
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But they don't make it specifically about anti-Americanism, how it's more "evil" than other nations, and race like Obama.
They say everyone is a sinner and everyone’s going to pay. This is no different.

That’s just the way evangelicals preach - they know it. That wasn’t why they hated Obama. It wasn’t his evangelical Christian religion. It was something else. Something they don’t admit in public settings.
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