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Old 01-24-2021, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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and does not mitigate the risk isolation presents.
Bull crap, it can. A better homelife does prevent suicide. Suicide normally happens with youth who have had traumatic events in their upbringing. Divorce, poverty, bullying, sexual assault, physical assault, drug use of parents, parents in prison, are among traumatic events that cause students to possibly be suicidal. Others can include their own drug use or mental illness. That said good parenting can prevent it. Being involved in youth groups in and out of school such as sports, scouting, etc. where a child has more positive adult role models, that they might not be as at risk and build resiliency.

 
Old 01-24-2021, 06:14 PM
 
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So you are not a parent?

And you think you have ANY IDEA what it is like to parent a child who suffers from depression, or anxiety, or any other mental illness?

And you think we are being LAZY and just wanting to foist our kids on to the public school system?

GTFO.
 
Old 01-24-2021, 06:14 PM
 
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Bull crap, it can. A better homelife does prevent suicide. .
167% spike in Vegas is not an anomaly.

That is statistically alarming.
 
Old 01-24-2021, 06:15 PM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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Bull crap, it can. A better homelife does prevent suicide. Suicide normally happens with youth who have had traumatic events in their upbringing. Divorce, poverty, bullying, sexual assault, physical assault, drug use of parents, parents in prison, are among traumatic events that cause students to possibly be suicidal. Others can include their own drug use or mental illness. That said good parenting can prevent it. Being involved in youth groups in and out of school such as sports, scouting, etc. where a child has more positive adult role models, that they might not be as at risk and build resiliency.
No. You are wrong, completely and 100% wrong.

This can be demonstrated quite clearly by looking at siblings.
 
Old 01-24-2021, 06:16 PM
 
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Bull crap, it can. A better homelife does prevent suicide. Suicide normally happens with youth who have had traumatic events in their upbringing. Divorce, poverty, bullying, sexual assault, physical assault, drug use of parents, parents in prison, are among traumatic events that cause students to possibly be suicidal. Others can include their own drug use or mental illness. That said good parenting can prevent it. Being involved in youth groups in and out of school such as sports, scouting, etc. where a child has more positive adult role models, that they might not be as at risk and build resiliency.

Kids who have good home lives also sometimes commit suicide.

Youth groups, after school sports, scouting are not happening or not happening normally right now in addition to school.
 
Old 01-24-2021, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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My own kids are in a hybrid system at the moment. They have very much expressed how much they prefer physical campus presence over the online portion. That’s an anecdote, but sounds like there’s more going on here than the prima fasciae correlation.
 
Old 01-24-2021, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Reality.

If kids are remote learning 30 hours/week, with 2.5 hours for lunch (5 * 30 minutes), that is 32.5 hours/week they are not around kids their age that last year they were around kids their age.

Assuming they are up 16 hours/day, that is 112 hrs/wk, so 30% of it one year ago..around kids. 0% now.
My brother has his kids in all kinds of activities after school now in this very district. I should know, every time I text this SOB he's driving them to some event. He texts back complaining up a storm about how he wishes they were in school because then he wouldn't be so busy.

Parenting is putting your balls in a vice, folks. It will get turned at will. Right there in the contract.
 
Old 01-24-2021, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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My own kids are in a hybrid system at the moment. They have very much expressed how much they prefer physical campus presence over the online portion. That’s an anecdote, but sounds like there’s more going on here than the prima fasciae correlation.
Suicide rates skyrocketing in the past 21 years is one factor.

Living in a town with one economic engine that has been devastated is another. You think the parents of these kids aren't stressed out because the Strip ain't been the Strip in over a year?
 
Old 01-24-2021, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Las Vegas is not the most family friendly place in the world.

(Yes, I know they are talking about the suburbs, but still. Everything/everyone is isolated from each other).
 
Old 01-24-2021, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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No. You are wrong, completely and 100% wrong.

This can be demonstrated quite clearly by looking at siblings.
You need to stop parcing a reply of mine to find a point that you disagree with. If you read my reply, I said that there are many issues that can cause children to be at-risk. Besides mental illness, many can be reduced by good parents. Perhaps a sibling that commits suicide had a known mental illness, had an unknown mental illness, was a loner or was bullied.
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