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Byzantine government overreach. I'm not a baby, I don't need a nanny.
I can assess my own risk profile.
Far too many small business owners I knew that were royally screwed in Michigan by government-forced shutdowns that decimated their businesses/companies.
Byzantine government overreach. I'm not a baby, I don't need a nanny.
I can assess my own risk profile.
Far too many small business owners I knew that were royally screwed in Michigan by government-forced shutdowns that decimated their businesses/companies.
Honestly, governors have no idea how to deal with a global health pandemic. They are doing the best they can because they haven't had any guidance from the federal government.
It's not the economy. That lockdown had something to do with COVID-19. In turn they made it out to be the economy. I would say, yes. Lockdown because of COVID-19.
Technically no lockdowns. Even when there were 700+ people dying a day in NY, I was able to go to the park and take walks around the neighborhood. I could also drive anywhere I wanted.
In the literal sense of the word, no, but Michigan came pretty damn close back in the Spring. No mixing with anyone outside your household and literally everything except grocery stores, pharmacies and restaurant takeout closed. Even landscaping and lawn service companies were shut down for a period of time.
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Byzantine government overreach. I'm not a baby, I don't need a nanny.
I can assess my own risk profile.
Far too many small business owners I knew that were royally screwed in Michigan by government-forced shutdowns that decimated their businesses/companies.
The people of Michigan attempted to act in April when they stormed their state capital. I thought they were ready to be American again but yet they went back to obeying. They were given permission to be a little bit free in the late summer and fall but they were again locked down in November.
I grew up in Michigan and still enjoy a yearly deer hunting trip there. I drove hundreds of miles across the state from south to its north and saw countless “my governor is an idiot signs”. I heard people spew hate against her that cannot be repeated in public. I thought these people would put up with no more. I was wrong. I was in Michigan when that woman told them to go back into lockdown and what I saw sickened me to the core. They all obeyed. The businesses all closed and everyone did as they were told. I thought these folks would March on the state capital and demand she step down. I thought they would defy her.
I lost all respect for Michigan. I packed up my stuff and went home to America. I came to the conclusion that the people up there do not deserve to be free. I feel sorry for the people I still have up there, they have to live with it. The best thing one could do if they live in a place like that at this point is to pack up and move. The place ain’t gonna change, they like being told what to do and they like being taken care of. Freedom is not what they want, they want daddy government to protect them and care for them. This attitude will not change when the rona is gone. Freedom can never survive when the people think like that.
Honestly, governors have no idea how to deal with a global health pandemic. They are doing the best they can because they haven't had any guidance from the federal government.
There is something magical about federal guidance that I don't know about. Why not blame the UN for their lack of guidance in a "global health pandemic"
Honestly, governors have no idea how to deal with a global health pandemic. They are doing the best they can because they haven't had any guidance from the federal government.
Is that an excuse for all the destruction they caused?
Looks more like an argument for them to do nothing.
well...for instance, here in Ohio, all "non-essential" businesses closed. you were supposed to stay home, unless it was "necessary," e.g., you need medicine, food, whatever.
many of you don't call it a "lockdown" because there were no legal teeth behind it - no jail time or bullet for violating it.
that's because many of you don't take "recommendations" seriously - I know many folks who treat those things the same AS a potential bullet, so, in their mind = lockdown.
i don't know (firsthand) if it was (much) worse in, say, Lombardi, but - those people did not go without heat, without electricity, without water, without television or radio news, without food, without hospitals - so pretty clearly, at least SOME employees were considered "essential" - so it's just a matter of degree.
As far as I know, China is the only place that had a real over-the-top "lockdown" - and of course, that is probably true, but it's not something that you can easily substantiate (i.e., quarantine by gunpower).
So - if you think Italy or Spain or France had a lockdown - then Ohio did too. If you think Ohio did not - then no one did.
But if you need "the force of law" to constitute a lockdown - then it will vary by the constitution of the nation in which you live.
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