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View Poll Results: If a Democrat did what Trump did, would you still support them
No, regardless of party 27 43.55%
No, because they are a Democrat they can't do wrong 1 1.61%
Yes, because they are a Democrat, they can't do right 3 4.84%
Yes, precedent is precedent 4 6.45%
I'll await the evidence. 27 43.55%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-29-2021, 03:43 AM
 
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While i am not for impeachment how is it unconstitutional? Impeachment is derived from british parliament practice which absolutely allowed for impeachment of former officials. Part on an impeachment to to bar the convicted from holding public office again.
That should be up to the voters !!!
Once again political hacks want to decide who people can vote for and in the same breath blubber about democracy !!! Democracy is Mob rule !!!
The congress who wants to decide who can run for elections is a tyrannical beast in a free society !!!
A free society in more important than Democracy !!! The founders of the country knew that !!! That's why they took action to prevent Mob rule and why the US is a republic and not a pure democracy !!! The democrat Mob use the constitution when its to their advantage and trash it when it isn't !!!

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Old 01-29-2021, 04:08 AM
 
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Pursuing impeachment after a person is out of office is unconstitutional and banana republic.

After the fact, its obvious that Clinton, even though he committed a crime, did not commit "high crimes and misdemeanors" and should not have been impeached for lying about doing an intern under the Resolute Desk. President Trump committed no crime any time he was charged.

Impeachment should be serious. Pelosi is old enough to remember the Watergate hearings. There's no excuse for her running a clown show. Or Schumer. Maybe some of the younger members are ignorant of history, but not them.
Good to hear that you realize that lying about a blow job is not an impeachable offense.

Strange that you would think inciting violence to overthrow an election is not.
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Old 01-29-2021, 04:32 AM
 
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Whether it got out of hand or was planned from the get go, there really is no question about who lied about the election, assembled a mob, then sicced them on Mike Pence and legislators in order to overturn the election.

Now ask yourself, if Republicans caught Obama in this, would they have let him go on without a public airing of the evidence?

Please. Let's be serous.

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Old 01-29-2021, 04:37 AM
 
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Republicans want a pass here while they make up their minds about who they are.

So far, we know they've are fine with undermining elections through gerrymandering, voter suppression, purging voter rolls, ...

But are they also in favor of violence to overthrow elections?

That's the question.

Wake up and smell the coffee. It's not T**** on trial here.

It's the Republican Party.
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Old 01-29-2021, 05:05 AM
 
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I have an honest question about disgraced former President Trump's second impeachment trial. As we all know, this is the first time a President challenged election results to the point of a terrorist plot to change the election results. This is the first time a former president is being impeached to prevent them from running again. Precedent will be set by this case whether you talk having the reason to impeach, an impeachment to disqualify a presidential candidate, or the result.

So I ask, conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters, would you support a Democrat doing the same thing as Trump has done?
"I have an honest question". No you DON'T.

Your entire premise is based on lies.

The claim Trump told the people to go and rot and all the other accusations is a LIE.

I know people who were there. They did NOT "march" they WALKED casually and were standing on the steps SINGING when people from ANTIFA showed up. It was ANTIFA people who caused all the "breaking in", etc.
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Old 01-29-2021, 05:10 AM
 
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Pursuing impeachment after a person is out of office is unconstitutional and banana republic.

After the fact, its obvious that Clinton, even though he committed a crime, did not commit "high crimes and misdemeanors" and should not have been impeached for lying about doing an intern under the Resolute Desk. President Trump committed no crime any time he was charged.

Impeachment should be serious. Pelosi is old enough to remember the Watergate hearings. There's no excuse for her running a clown show. Or Schumer. Maybe some of the younger members are ignorant of history, but not them.
"After the fact, its obvious that Clinton, even though he committed a crime, did not commit "high crimes and misdemeanors" and should not have been impeached for lying about doing an intern under the Resolute Desk."


IMO, it was MORE for LYING IN COURT UNDER OATH that got him impeached.


"The impeachment of Bill Clinton was initiated on October 8, 1998, when the United States House of Representatives voted to commence impeachment proceedings against Bill Clinton, the 42nd president of the United States, for "high crimes and misdemeanors". The specific charges against Clinton were lying under oath and obstruction of justice"



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeac...f_Bill_Clinton
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Old 01-29-2021, 05:11 AM
 
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They don't want Trump running again. This is what it's all about. If you cannot see this, then you have a bag over your face.

This is a Political Ploy, Plain and simple. Trump didn't cause any Insurrection.

Pelosi is, and will continue to be the Biggest fraud ever, along with all her Cronies.

I don't give 2 chits if you like Trump or not.

He's out of office - Enough of wasting our Tax payer monies on this.

As I said - THEY ARE afraid of him RUNNING again.

THE DEMS ARE NOTHING BUT LYING Parasites. I will never, ever, in my life Trust any of them. You all have been brainwashed, into believing These Frauds.

BIDEN IS NOTHING BUT A FAKE PRESIDENT, signing THese EO's, because that's all he's good for. NOTHING else.
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Old 01-29-2021, 05:22 AM
 
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Clinton embarrassed the country more than Trump, hah. That's rich. So do you condone what Trump did? If so, would you condone a Democrat doing the same thing?
"Clinton embarrassed the country more than Trump", IMO, YES.

"So do you condone what Trump did?"

What he ACTUALLY did and said or what the left media and the left politicians SAY he did.

BIG difference!

Were YOU there? I know people who WERE and they say an entirely DIFFERENT story then what the left, which includes most of the media, are saying.

Let's get back to the issue. The Constitution says the MOST severe thing an impeachment can due is removing someone from office, PERIOD!

Trump is NOT IN OFFICE, so what do they expect to do?

2. The constitution also says ONLY THE CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE SUPREME COURT can preside over the impeachment trial. From what I have heard Roberts says he will NOT preside over the so-called trial.

No Chief Justice, NO impeachment TRIAL!
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Old 01-29-2021, 05:24 AM
 
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Why would Democrats be afraid of Trump running again?

Democrats are a slam dunk in that scenario.
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Old 01-29-2021, 05:28 AM
 
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How is Trump "disgraced"? You throw that word around rather freely.

He never said anything in his speech that encouraged any violence. In fact, an investigation has proved that the troublemakers had planned to wreak havoc long before Trump did his speech.
He never said anything in his speech that encouraged any violence"

His speech has been provided on here several times and not ONE lib can find ANYWHERE in it to support their claims.

When asked to provide the language they claim he said, crickets!
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