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...The problem I have with Bush sr.'s domestic policy is he supported Nafta, and doubled legal immigration. I consider open borders and "free" trade to be domestic policies largely and those alone put Bush Sr. tied near the bottom.
What do we call that - a Freudian slip? Note the legal part; not illegal. Our incessant debate on illegal immigration is mired in questions of, well, illegality... and therefore sidesteps the more glaring issues of culture, nationality and ethnicity, and favoring "the native" vs. "the foreign". These issues become flagrantly exposed once we omit the "illegal" and focus on just the legal side of immigration.
So then, let's drop pretense. Trump was opposed to immigration, full stop. Mainstream conservatives are NOT opposed to immigration, provided that it's legal. The real debate here, is between mainstream conservatives, typified by Bush Sr., Neocons (such as Bush Jr.) and nativists, such as Trump.
What do we call that - a Freudian slip? Note the legal part; not illegal. Our incessant debate on illegal immigration is mired in questions of, well, illegality... and therefore sidesteps the more glaring issues of culture, nationality and ethnicity, and favoring "the native" vs. "the foreign". These issues become flagrantly exposed once we omit the "illegal" and focus on just the legal side of immigration.
So then, let's drop pretense. Trump was opposed to immigration, full stop. Mainstream conservatives are NOT opposed to immigration, provided that it's legal. The real debate here, is between mainstream conservatives, typified by Bush Sr., Neocons (such as Bush Jr.) and nativists, such as Trump.
There's more opposition to illegal immigration but also to such high levels of legal immigration from anywhere and everywhere and based on relatives immigrating. Trump probably didn't want to reduce the quantity of legal immigration as much as increase the quality of immigrants with more merit based immigration. I want to reduce legal immigration below the 1990 Bush increase and make it more selective. That may not be the "mainstream" position of the politicians but I think it's what most of the public really wants if they had their druthers.
Interestingly, Bush Jr. would probably be at the top of each of those lists had he been a one term president. He was one of the top presidents in history his first term and one of the worst in his second term.
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What do we call that - a Freudian slip? Note the legal part; not illegal. Our incessant debate on illegal immigration is mired in questions of, well, illegality... and therefore sidesteps the more glaring issues of culture, nationality and ethnicity, and favoring "the native" vs. "the foreign". These issues become flagrantly exposed once we omit the "illegal" and focus on just the legal side of immigration.
So then, let's drop pretense. Trump was opposed to immigration, full stop. Mainstream conservatives are NOT opposed to immigration, provided that it's legal. The real debate here, is between mainstream conservatives, typified by Bush Sr., Neocons (such as Bush Jr.) and nativists, such as Trump.
What do you mean? Trump married not one, but TWO immigrants!!!
Interestingly, Bush Jr. would probably be at the top of each of those lists had he been a one term president. He was one of the top presidents in history his first term and one of the worst in his second term.
It should be noted that Bush II's second term marked the first wave of the vicious onslaught by the Leftists who are out to rule and ruin this nation, and their Snowflake Sycophants.
Kennedy is way overrated because he was handsome and got shot.
He is the ONLY president to put us on the verge of a nuclear war. He did start us into the Vietnam quagmire.
Kennedy didn't get us into Vietnam, Eisenhower did. JFK escalated it though. We went from "there" to really there.
LBJ really got us in there though. He's a war criminal.
Eisenhower left office with 900 troops in Vietnam.
JFK died with 16,300 troops there
LBJ left office with 536,100 there
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