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Old 01-29-2021, 11:41 AM
 
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I was confused about this whole issue. Now I get it. You think why would transgender join the military? It's because they get their surgery (at a cost of over $300k) paid for by YOU, the taxpayer.
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Old 01-29-2021, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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Why should people, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race or any other factor not be allowed to serve in the United States military?
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Old 01-29-2021, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Besides having to make special accommodations for trans people there are the required hormone drugs that they need to take and are to be paid for by us.



I don't have an issue with trans people serving but I don't think the tiny minority of them have the Right to make demands on the majority forcing them to change traditions etc..
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Old 01-29-2021, 11:50 AM
 
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Why should people, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race or any other factor not be allowed to serve in the United States military?

In this instance, it's because they would not be deploy, just not to the sand box, but basically anywhere.
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Old 01-29-2021, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia/South Jersey area
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Oh look another stupid statement has found a friend.

I want whomever has the fortitude, desire and abilities to join the military, to be allowed to.

I could care less what's going on with their private parts.

When the crap hits the fan, I want that person to be competent at their job,. Period.
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Old 01-29-2021, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia/South Jersey area
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Besides having to make special accommodations for trans people there are the required hormone drugs that they need to take and are to be paid for by us.



I don't have an issue with trans people serving but I don't think the tiny minority of them have the Right to make demands on the majority forcing them to change traditions etc..
They are on the same medical plan as every other military person. If the plan covers the drugs then they are paid for, if the plan doesn't cover the hormones they are not granted special permission or money
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Old 01-29-2021, 11:57 AM
 
Location: NH
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Why should people, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race or any other factor not be allowed to serve in the United States military?
Its not about the transgendered person, its about putting others in uncomfortable situations when there are group showers, changing facilities, etc. But whatever, the military has gone soft so I'm not surprised. I just know a close friend never realized the implications either until they had to handle situations similar to this where troops were coming to them for advise because they didn't feel comfortable and it ultimately altered the entire moral of the unit
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Old 01-29-2021, 11:58 AM
 
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Oh look another stupid statement has found a friend.

I want whomever has the fortitude, desire and abilities to join the military, to be allowed to.

I could care less what's going on with their private parts.

When the crap hits the fan, I want that person to be competent at their job,. Period.
You missed the point. Did you READ the OP? They aren't doing it to serve. They are joining so that YOU pay for their surgery.
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Old 01-29-2021, 11:59 AM
 
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Oh look another stupid statement has found a friend.

I want whomever has the fortitude, desire and abilities to join the military, to be allowed to.

I could care less what's going on with their private parts.

When the crap hits the fan, I want that person to be competent at their job,. Period.
It takes 18 months to go through the process. They aren't doing their job when they are having major surgery on your dime.
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Old 01-29-2021, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Why should people, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race or any other factor not be allowed to serve in the United States military?
because they don't meet the standard, and they are not qualified....


only 3 out of 10 of our youth (hs grads to 25) are even QUALIFIED to enlist




as to trangender...while they are going through the transitioning process...they are NOT DEPLYABLE..... meaning they are NOT AN ASSET (ie USABLE) to the military
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