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That would be a disaster for our country. How many Americans do you know want to work on farms or clean houses and hotels for a living. Do you think Americans aspire to have these jobs.
Yes, of course. Millions of them would be happy doing jobs like these for fair pay.
It rakes seven flunkies to declare the borders a free-for-all that welcomes all illegals and their dogs, whether they are civilized humans or ax murderers?
That sounds about right--a particularly galling combination of nauseating government waste and out-of-touch politicians not giving a damn about the public they are SUPPOSED to be serving.
Make life so difficult for illegals that they will self deport. If they can't find work or cash in on freebies, they will leave on their own accord.
There's more that 11 million of them. Some estimates say 30 million. No one knows for sure. However, it's obvious that 11 million is a gross underestimate and the government has been bandying that number around for years. Yet, every single day, illegals either sneak across the border or overstay a visa.
As for who will replace them --- For the umpteenth time, Americans will take those jobs. Of course, employers will have to raise wages and give decent benefits. Before Obama, when workplace raids were common, Americans would show up that very same day to apply for those jobs. In the case of Howard Industries in MS, some drove 40 miles for a chance at a job.
Pay attention... An illegal alien is working on a construction site and gets deported. There's a job opening. An american who is working as a line cook, leaves his job and takes the construction job. Who is taking the now open line cook job? And expand that scenario 11M times.
We don't have 11M workers sitting on the sidelines waiting to jump into any and every job, regardless of location or skill set. Most people are not going to move just to take a low wage job.
And the other side of equation... Illegals are also CONSUMERS. They have homes, and buy groceries, and use laundromats, and have cell phones, and go to the movies... Etc.
Are you suddenly going to buy a second home bc you took a job that used to filled by an illegal?
Those "jobs" don't need to be done if we have a smaller population.
The only thing more ridiculous than this assertion is that you put "jobs" in quotes.
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LOL! Immigration is terrible for the economy. Sending illegals home and stopping immigration going forward would be an economic bonanza for Americans.
You obviously have zero idea how an economy works. The idea that removing 11M consumers would be an economic bonanza is ridiculous. Are you going to be eating two dinners to offset the lost spending? If you're not, please be quiet about any booms.
Yes, of course. Millions of them would be happy doing jobs like these for fair pay.
That posters comments are laughable to say the least. How many times does she have to be told that we have unlimited visas for legal, foreign farm workers before she stops repeating herself? Since when haven't Americans cleaned homes and hotel rooms for a fair wage or done any other low skilled manual labor job? I guess she thinks that Americans will not do construction work either and that is the industry that illegals have flooded the most. I absolutely can't stand these lying pro-illegals.
That posters comments are laughable to say the least. How many times does she have to be told that we have unlimited visas for legal, foreign farm workers before she stops repeating herself? Since when haven't Americans cleaned homes and hotel rooms for a fair wage or done any other low skilled manual labor job? I guess she thinks that Americans will not do construction work either and that is the industry that illegals have flooded the most. I absolutely can't stand these lying pro-illegals.
How many times do y'all need it pointed out that the people who actually use those visas have been telling you for over a decade THEY CAN'T GET ENOUGH PEOPLE THROUGH THEM?
This is coming directly from the farmers and ag industry. This isn't liberal NYC professor. These are the actual people completing the paperwork to get these workers on their farms. So why is it so hard for you to accept?
That posters comments are laughable to say the least. How many times does she have to be told that we have unlimited visas for legal, foreign farm workers before she stops repeating herself? Since when haven't Americans cleaned homes and hotel rooms for a fair wage or done any other low skilled manual labor job? I guess she thinks that Americans will not do construction work either and that is the industry that illegals have flooded the most. I absolutely can't stand these lying pro-illegals.
I think they are just ignorant, not deceitful. They are mindless NPCs repeating what their programmers have told them to say.
The further you get away from the southern border, the more white and black (and Hispanic) citizens you see doing: construction, yard work, janitorial work, bussing tables, cleaning hotels, ... AND the higher the wages are for those jobs.
How many times do y'all need it pointed out that the people who actually use those visas have been telling you for over a decade THEY CAN'T GET ENOUGH PEOPLE THROUGH THEM?
This is coming directly from the farmers and ag industry. This isn't liberal NYC professor. These are the actual people completing the paperwork to get these workers on their farms. So why is it so hard for you to accept?
There were some difficulties this year with Covid. For normal years, what you are saying is pure fiction.
We know lots of farmers and people in the Ag industry. It just is not a big problem in normal years.
Removing as many illegals as possible would have a positive effect on hourly wages. Businesses would have to increase hourly wages to attract additional workers. A lot of the under the table jobs would disappear. Some prices, in areas such as construction jobs, would also increase.
Any amnesty would be a slap in the face to any potential immigrant that followed current US immigration laws. We have to stop rewarding illegal behavior. It only creates more of the same.
No disrespect intended towards you or our Mexican illegal residents but exactly who is going to do the jobs the illegals do? Roofing? Farm work? Americans largely refuse to do those jobs.
I've been here for years. Not a single one of you has ever explained how you plan to remove the millions of undocumented people in a way that doesn't crash the economy. But I'll give you credit bc at least no one is suggesting the dumb idea of bussing then all of like y'all used to.
So what's your plan? Gradually throw out 11M people over 10 years?
And replace them with who bc that's going to be the other side of not crashing the economy, from a producer & consumer angle.
Stop accommodating them and the problem will solve itself.
As of now, the US generally accommodates illegals and they feel rather comfortable being here. Make it uncomfortable for them, impossible for them to get by, they will mostly go away.
In any case, i would fully support funding deporting them all by force.
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