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You're right. To help me see the errors of my way could you explain why older guns are so much more expensive now than they were when first sold?
Do you not understand how antiques/collectibles work?
Rarity, desirability, historical significance or interest, condition in spite of age. It applies to guns the same as it applies to anything else. Why do people pay big bucks for a certain Coca-Cola sign or Shell oil can or anything else?
Do you not understand how antiques/collectibles work?
Rarity, desirability, historical significance or interest, condition in spite of age. It's applies to guns the same as it applies to anything else. Why do people pay big bucks for a certain Coca-Cola sign or Shell oil can or anything else?
That like any antique/collectible there are certain guns that are particularly rare/desirable and command a high price tag? Rarity is an aspect that affects price. That doesn't mean all old guns are rare. That doesn't negate that there are also old guns that are plentiful, not particularly desirable, and because of that inexpensive.
To repeat, guns are no different than any antique. There is a Coca-Cola sign that someone will pay $10k for, and another one that looks similar that will only sell for $50.
You're absolutely correct and absolutely misleading.
Historically ruling classes would arm the peasantry so long as they remain under military control. Given guns, uniforms, meals and pay, provided the peasantry as you call them protect or conquer what the elites have instructed them to.
That's completely different than relieving a citizenry from personal possession of firearms/ who are not engaged in the Govt sponsored conflict.
Since you're so esteemed in determining who knows what on 'whoever made that quote has zero grasp of world history', please explain how the following events are exactly like governments arming peasants to achieve govt military objectives:
In 1911, the Ottoman Empire began a gun confiscation program that eventually led to the slaughter of 1.5 million Armenians.
In 1938, Hitler’s Nazi party implemented gun confiscation programs that preceded the Holocaust.
In 1935 the Chinese government forced citizens to turn over their firearms, and between 1935 and 1952 20 million citizens were murdered.
Similar gun control measures, gun seizures, and subsequent acts of violence against citizens have occurred in Cambodia and the Soviet Union, where unarmed populaces were left with little recourse when governments initiated acts of violence.
Depending on where, peasants were either expected to have a weapon or given one. It was in the best interest of the ruling class for peasants to have their own weapon since that would mean less they'd have to spend arming them and would make for a better fielded army if they were already experienced in using their weapon.
For every example of you claiming govt weapons confiscation led to mass tyranny, i can cite ones where it was used to benefit society.
Going back to Japan banning & confiscating samurai weaponry to conform to more European norms to Australia banning & confiscating guns to address mass shootings. None of those were precursors to authoritarian regimes stepping in to crush the citizenry.
That like any antique/collectible there are certain guns that are particularly rare/desirable and command a high price tag? Rarity is an aspect that affects price. That doesn't mean all old guns are rare. That doesn't negate that there are also old guns that are plentiful, not particularly desirable, and because of that inexpensive.
To repeat, guns are no different than any antique. There is a Coca-Cola sign that someone will pay $10k for, and another one that looks similar that will only sell for $50.
Rarity is the primary decider on the resale value of something. Nothing else is remotely close. Not age, not condition, not usability. Rarity.
Rarity is the primary decider on the resale value of something. Nothing else is remotely close. Not age, not condition, not usability. Rarity.
Yes, we agree. Rarity affects the price of something. Where you go wrong is jumping from "rarity affects price" to "all old guns are rare". But clearly your mind is made up so I won't continue trying to convince you otherwise.
Please catch up, no one is saying that. We all know it will be done at the legislation level. Comply or become a felon over night.
So the police will have to confiscate? How many will do that?
I've always found it interesting the relationship between the gun owning community and the thin blue line flag community. It's a venn diagram that shares a lot of area, but when it comes down to it, the police will be the ones to take the guns.
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