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Let's say Hillary chose not to run four years ago and Biden instead secured the Democratic nomination for president. Would he have defeated Trump in the 2016 U.S. presidential election?
Biden was a tad sharper, nowhere near as universally despised as Hillary, and fresh off the coattails of the Obama years. On the flip side, Trump was an unknown quantity and a refreshing change agent. Would the American people still have taken a gamble on Trump? Or would the Democrats have held the executive branch for three consecutive terms?
After all, Trump won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin in 2016 by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Would Biden have performed better than Hillary in those critical three states? (Just for the record, I think Donald would have still cried fraud, too, just like he did when he claimed Ted Cruz illegally and fraudulently stole the 2016 Iowa Caucus from him.)
What do you guys think?
Yes, I think he likely would have. I consider Hillary the better candidate, but there are so many people who hate her for being a woman, and so many who hate her for being a Clinton - people couldn't get past that.
Let's say Hillary chose not to run four years ago and Biden instead secured the Democratic nomination for president. Would he have defeated Trump in the 2016 U.S. presidential election?
Biden was a tad sharper, nowhere near as universally despised as Hillary, and fresh off the coattails of the Obama years. On the flip side, Trump was an unknown quantity and a refreshing change agent. Would the American people still have taken a gamble on Trump? Or would the Democrats have held the executive branch for three consecutive terms?
After all, Trump won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin in 2016 by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Would Biden have performed better than Hillary in those critical three states? (Just for the record, I think Donald would have still cried fraud, too, just like he did when he claimed Ted Cruz illegally and fraudulently stole the 2016 Iowa Caucus from him.)
What do you guys think?
Depends on his VP. If he picked a black woman yes. If not no. Democrats can't win without the black or latino vote. Perhaps a latina woman.
Nope. Trump was non career politician and charismatic. His strategy to appeal to blue collar and rural voters was a great strategy. Who doesn't like a non career politician, so we thought.
Yeah, Biden would have beat Trump b/c the Blue Wall would have held.
Hillary lost because many (1) some women couldn't get past Hillary staying w/Bill after all his peccadilloes, (2) some people (men AND women) will never vote for a woman, (3) many men hated Hillary, and (4) Comey's late reveal of nothing there in the Hillary emails, thereby reviving a dead issue, put the undecideds over the edge.
I voted for Hillary because she had a working brain, was exceedingly smart, highly educated, and knew government. I didn't vote for Trump because he was unqualified, his inflammatory rhetoric - childish, bratty namecalling of his opponents, among many other things (and all-about-me-ism) - convinced me he was unfit for the office. How unfit he ultimately proved to be was beyond my wildest imagination.
Had Hillary been elected we would not have a $1T deficit today because of phony tax cuts lining the pockets of the rich - leaving us too broke to properly deal w/COVID; we wouldn't have had a corrupt AG Barr effectively neutering the very real treasonous behavior of the Trump campaign, we wouldn't have our institutions maligned and almost destroyed, we wouldn't have had a revolving door cabinet, we wouldn't have had unqualified political toadies and/or enemies of the mission of government put in charge of important departments of government, we wouldn't have the CDC not telling the truth about COVID because it made Trump look bad, we wouldn't have had our president insulting our allies, we wouldn't have had daily nonstop chaos and disorder with an insane day and night tweetstorm of lies, slander and conspiracy theories inciting hatred and divisiveness among the citizenry, we wouldn't have had a president telling lies, gaslighting, denying fact every time he opened his mouth, we wouldn't have become a world laughing stock and our reputation forever destroyed as a reliable partner (b/c, after all, it could happen again) and, finally, we wouldn't have had a president calling our elections fake, thereby inciting a mob to overthrow our government.
Yeah, Biden would have won and the entire country would have been in a much better, happier place.
Last edited by Ariadne22; 01-31-2021 at 06:59 PM..
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Doubtful. Dominion hadn't yet perfected their algorithms.
I am glad they have perfected it now! We can't afford to have another POS like Trump again
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