Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
World War 2: many of the atrocities and suffering were perpetrated by the Japanese military. The Japanese are not white.
The Korean War claimed mostly nonwhite victims: Koreans and Chinese.
Vietnam: a lot of nonwhites died.
Slavery: it existed everywhere, in all continents, before the first time a white European ever saw a black African (and this encounter happened arguably before Christ's time). And it was white Europeans who created the idea that all men were created equally before the law and white Europeans (more specifically, evangelical Christians from England) who pushed that. White Europeans (including the English navy) sailed after slave trading ships. Even the Germans executed slave traders they apprehended in their African colonies on the spot.
Joseph Stalin: um... he was white, but he was a Slav. By your reasoning, hold accountable every black and Asian and Middle Eastern despot. How many do you think died due to Mao's ludicrous policies?
We are talking about what happened here within the confines of the USA. Bringing anything else up is just gaslighting.
We are talking about what happened here within the confines of the USA. Bringing anything else up is just gaslighting.
All sorts of things happened within the confines of the US. That doesn't mean one has to obsess over slavery and blacks being oppressed by whites. You don't like anyone obsessing over whatever complaints they have about what blacks do.
Why? Without slavery, you would not have Black Americans here. It is literally the one reason Black Americans are here. It is going to be brought up over and over, whether you want to hear about it or not. My ancestors were brought here as slaves. I'm not going to forget about it. It is going to be discussed, period.
Blacks in Jamaica and Haiti talk about slavery too. Haiti was founded as the result of a slave rebellion. Jamaica is majority-Black because slaves were brought there. And Jamaicans will talk about it.
How have Black people been erasing any evidence of slavery? I'm not seeing it.
Then dont question why some people, especially non blacks, aren't interested in black history month or anything related to blacks. You can talk about slavery which is the equivalent of attempting to guilt or shame others for history or making excuses all you want but it just pushes others away. Its the equivalent of me as a women constantly harping on what a raw deal my female ancestors got and so everything not perfect in my life is the fault of how men and society treated women.
You havent been aware of all the statues, monuments, pictures depicting anything about slavery being removed and destroyed, names of buildings, schools, roadways being changed, even words and movies being shunned,
It matters because it's the ONLY reason Blacks got here in the first place. Blacks en masse were the only group in America in which the vast majority were slaves, not even counted as human beings. It matters because it makes up a large portion of the time Black Americans have been here.
And we're talking about America, not the Middle East or anywhere else.
Send them back to Africa, then. They're clearly not happy here.
Why? Without slavery, you would not have Black Americans here. It is literally the one reason Black Americans are here.
Not necessarily. Suppose we had never had slavery, but we still had the Immigration Act of 1965. There would be black Americans here. Most likely they would come from the elite of Africa, or have been their immediate descendants; these folks would have been drawn here for opportunities not available where they came from, once they were finally allowed to come here. Indeed, under this scenario, black people would probably be seen as the "model minority."
Not if your ancestors didn’t capture and sold their countrymen to the whities.
This is what A LOT of people are missing. Slavery WAS Black Africans' culture at the time (and still is in some areas of Africa). I thought we were supposed to be sensitive to and respect others' cultures. So, the slavery of Blacks (to a very small degree compared to elsewhere in the new world) continued in the US. And Blacks incessantly complain that their culture was respected?
Did you put Morgan and McCoy along with Newton and Einstein etc. because of their skin color?
Using children to advance your agenda is a disgusting tactic. By the way, MLK didn’t just take photo ops with children. He actually put them in danger and in prison.
It matters because it's the ONLY reason Blacks got here in the first place. Blacks en masse were the only group in America in which the vast majority were slaves, not even counted as human beings. It matters because it makes up a large portion of the time Black Americans have been here.
And we're talking about America, not the Middle East or anywhere else.
Why? Without slavery, you would not have Black Americans here. It is literally the one reason Black Americans are here. It is going to be brought up over and over, whether you want to hear about it or not. My ancestors were brought here as slaves. I'm not going to forget about it. It is going to be discussed, period.
Blacks in Jamaica and Haiti talk about slavery too. Haiti was founded as the result of a slave rebellion. Jamaica is majority-Black because slaves were brought there. And Jamaicans will talk about it.
How have Black people been erasing any evidence of slavery? I'm not seeing it.
Not necessarily. Suppose we had never had slavery, but we still had the Immigration Act of 1965. There would be black Americans here. Most likely they would come from the elite of Africa, or have been their immediate descendants; these folks would have been drawn here for opportunities not available where they came from, once they were finally allowed to come here. Indeed, under this scenario, black people would probably be seen as the "model minority."
They wouldn’t be “Black Americans” though. The term “black” was imposed for purposes of slavery etc. Those individuals would have been labeled just like Asians, by ethnicity. Only now has that been somewhat permitted after much pushing from recent Americans of African heritage.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
