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Old 02-04-2021, 08:17 AM
 
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This is no such thing is “African black” culture. Which cultures are you referring to? Be specific
I've cited this many times:
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"Europeans were not able to independently enter the West and Central African interior to capture Africans and force them onto ships to the Americas. Instead, European traders generally relied on a network of African rulers and traders to capture and bring enslaved Africans from various coastal and interior regions to slave castles on the West and Central African coast. Many of these traders acquired captives as a result of military and political conflict, but some also pursued slave trading for profit.

Scholars provide various explanations for why African traders were willing to supply enslaved Africans to Europeans for the trans-Atlantic trade. By the early sixteenth century, slavery already played a major role in some western and central African societies"
https://ldhi.library.cofc.edu/exhibi...ation_and_resi

Slavery was their culture. It's how they lived. It still is in some areas of Africa, to this day. According to CNN, the latest estimate is that there are currently 9.2 million slaves in Africa, FAR more than there ever were in the US.

The entire Atlantic Slave Trade was supplied by the Black African millennia-long culture of slavery. The US played only a very small role:

Atlantic Slave Trade Distribution Map - National Geographic
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Old 02-04-2021, 08:18 AM
 
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Why are you conflating the UK with the US?
Follow the conversation. The poster made claims about the entire world and clearly didn’t have a clue.
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Old 02-04-2021, 08:26 AM
 
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What in the world are you talking about? Your first question makes zero sense.
You haven't accepted the fact that Black African societies have been slavery-based for thousands of years, and many still are.
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Old 02-04-2021, 09:00 AM
 
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You haven't accepted the fact that Black African societies have been slavery-based for thousands of years, and many still are.
Really? Prove it. Show me my posts where dispute that slavery didn’t exist in Africa or anywhere in the world. I will wait.
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Old 02-04-2021, 09:02 AM
 
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I've cited this many times:
https://ldhi.library.cofc.edu/exhibi...ation_and_resi

Slavery was their culture. It's how they lived. It still is in some areas of Africa, to this day. According to CNN, the latest estimate is that there are currently 9.2 million slaves in Africa, FAR more than there ever were in the US.

The entire Atlantic Slave Trade was supplied by the Black African millennia-long culture of slavery. The US played only a very small role:

Atlantic Slave Trade Distribution Map - National Geographic

Again, which cultures? Be specific as to which ones were “race-based.” What is this “race-based society heritage” you are talking about? (whatever that is)

You understand the different cultures in Europe so specify the ones we are discussing. You claimed that there was RACE-BASED slavery in Africa. You still have not proved that.

In fact, the article contradicts your claim.
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Old 02-04-2021, 09:45 AM
 
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Really? Prove it. Show me my posts where dispute that slavery didn’t exist in Africa or anywhere in the world. I will wait.
You clearly dispute that Black African culture was slavery-based LONG before that culture was imported to the US:
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Exactly, so why stamp out the Black African heritage of a slavery-based culture that was imported to the US? Why not embrace that race-based society heritage that comes from their African homelands?
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What in the world are you talking about? Your first question makes zero sense.
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Old 02-04-2021, 09:50 AM
 
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Exactly, so why stamp out the Black African heritage of a slavery-based culture that was imported to the US? Why not embrace that race-based society heritage that comes from their African homelands?
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Again, which cultures?
African Blacks captured and sold other Black Africans into slavery. It was no big deal to them. It was their culture. It's how they lived.

That culture was later exported in a very small percentage to the US, but mostly to other new world areas. I posted the Nat Geo map. The US was a very low percentage export destination for the African slavery culture.
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:19 AM
 
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You clearly dispute that Black African culture was slavery-based LONG before that culture was imported to the US:
Where is the dispute? Still waiting.
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:22 AM
 
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Exactly, so why stamp out the Black African heritage of a slavery-based culture that was imported to the US? Why not embrace that race-based society heritage that comes from their African homelands?
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African Blacks captured and sold other Black Africans into slavery. It was no big deal to them. It was their culture. It's how they lived.

That culture was later exported in a very small percentage to the US, but mostly to other new world areas. I posted the Nat Geo map. The US was a very low percentage export destination for the African slavery culture.
Which cultures? And what is this “race based society heritage” that you are talking about that existed in Africa? What society? Yoruba, Ibgo, Akan? Please share.

There is no such thing as “African Blacks.” Also slavery among certain African cultures was not necessarily the same as American slavery which was an extreme version of what the British did to the Irish.

The US did not need many exports directly from Africa as they had plenty land to force slaves to reproduce.
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:25 AM
 
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Where is the dispute? Still waiting.
I posted it. READ.
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