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Old 02-07-2021, 05:38 AM
 
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Who do we blame when parents do their job only to have their kids go to school and instead of proceeding through academic curricula, they're bombarded with social justice curricula all the time?

From what's said in the OP, seems like the fault lies with US Ed Schools, brainwashing every educator in the US to be an SJW indoctrinator, not a teacher of academics and critical thinking skills.
Could you point out the parent's job?

Is it just to drop off the child at school and "hope" they educate their child the way they want? If that is how parents are doing it, it is already too late.
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Old 02-07-2021, 05:50 AM
 
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Sure, Jan. Going by your lack of terminology, I have doubts about the reality of your tale.
Lack of what terminology? "Teacher Assistant?" Every college has its own terminology for this phase.

Or the liberal newspeak terminology that Kamala Harris broke through barriers of being a woman in politics and a person of color.
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Old 02-07-2021, 05:56 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Could you point out the parent's job?

Is it just to drop off the child at school and "hope" they educate their child the way they want? If that is how parents are doing it, it is already too late.
No, it's to provide an educationally conducive environment in the home to supplement what's happening at school. The breakdown occurred when US public schools stopped being about academics and critical thinking skills and started being vessels of social justice change.

We can pinpoint exactly when that change happened... Beginning in the 1960s, SJW education gurus began making radical changes in the US K-12 education system to specifically social engineer "equal educational outcomes" in an effort to achieve "equality" and "social cohesion." Naturally, they achieved neither, and all we're left with now is a deliberately dumbed-down populace. Here's how it happened, and why:
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"While students in the bottom quartile have shown slow but steady improvement since the 1960s, average test scores have nonetheless gone down, primarily because of the performance of those in the top quartile. This "highest cohort of achievers," Rudman writes, has shown "the greatest declines across a variety of subjects as well as across age-level groups." Analysts have also found "a substantial drop among those children in the middle range of achievement"

...The contrast was stark: schools that had "severely declining test scores" had "moved determinedly toward heterogeneous grouping" (that is, mixed students of differing ability levels in the same classes), while the "schools who have maintained good SAT [Stanford Achievement Test, for grades K-12] scores" tended "to prefer homogeneous grouping [ability/skill-level grouping, aka tracking]."

If attaining educational excellence is this simple, why have these high-quality schools become so rare? The answer lies in the cultural ferment of the 1960s.

THE INCUBUS OF THE SIXTIES

In every conceivable fashion the reigning ethos of those times was hostile to excellence in education. Individual achievement fell under intense suspicion, as did attempts to maintain standards. Discriminating among students on the basis of ability or performance was branded "elitist." Educational gurus of the day called for essentially nonacademic schools, whose main purpose would be to build habits of social cooperation and equality rather than to train the mind."
The Other Crisis in American Education - The Atlantic

Much more at the link.

Millennials are the least capable US generation (in literacy, math, and technology knowledge/skills as measured by OECD's PIAAC - ), so far:

How we know US millennials have been severely under-educated...
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"U.S. millennials performed horribly.

That might even be an understatement, given the extent of the American shortcomings. No matter how you sliced the data – by class, by race, by education – young Americans were laggards compared to their international peers. In every subject, U.S. millennials ranked at the bottom or very close to it, according to a new study by testing company ETS.

“We were taken aback,” said ETS researcher Anita Sands. “We tend to think millennials are really savvy in this area. But that’s not what we are seeing.”

...This exam [OECD's PIAAC], given in 23 countries, assessed the thinking abilities and workplace skills of adults. It focused on literacy, math and technological problem-solving. The goal was to figure out how prepared people are to work in a complex, modern society. And U.S. millennials performed horribly...

But surely America’s brightest were on top?

Nope.

U.S. millennials with master’s degrees and doctorates did better than their peers in only three countries, Ireland, Poland and Spain...The ETS study noted that a decade ago the skill level of American adults was judged mediocre. “Now it is below even that.” So Millennials are falling even further behind.

Top-scoring US millennials – the 90th percentile on the PIAAC test – were at the bottom internationally, ranking higher only than their peers in Spain. The bottom scorers (10th percentile) also lagged behind their peers."
U.S. millennials post ‘abysmal’ scores in literacy, math,and tech skills test, lag behind foreign peers - Washington Post

Let that sink in...

"But surely America’s brightest were on top?

Nope."


Gen Z (Zoomers) is likely to be even worse still, given the following just-released NAEP 12th grade test results:

12th Grade Reading: 36% At or Above Proficient
12th Grade Math: 24% At or Above Proficient

The huge race gaps remain, with Hispanics and Blacks severely lagging their Asian and White peers, with proficiency rates in the single digit percentages.

https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/

The US public school rot is widespread, intentional, and systemic.

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Old 02-07-2021, 05:57 AM
 
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That reminds me of a older thread posted on C-D forums back in 2012 about a teacher yelling at a student. https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...estion-he.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjpWaESn_9g

The more things change, the more it stays the same I guess.
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Old 02-07-2021, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Japan
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It's one part the decline in Christianity and increase in secularization (people will seek out or create new religions as others fade), one part the feminization of our institutions (females increasingly dominate K-12 education), and one part "classism." There are certainly low-income Woke religionists, but it is primarily a vehicle by which higher-status people cement their superiority over the rubes ("white supremacists") who aren't as sophisticated and have fewer future prospects than the born-again Wokeists.
That's all part of it for sure. Edward Dutton makes the case here that many of the changes we're seeing in society are a direct result of the rise of feminism. For evolutionary reasons, men tend to care about "real power", like who can win in a fight, a sports contest, or a debate, but women have different priorities. Our feminized society will be happy to let big tech grab up all the real power, so long as nobody on the internet is allowed to hurt our feelings.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QUsRq0XSDU&t=1319s
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Old 02-07-2021, 06:12 AM
 
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I assume she's your intern but I have no idea what grade you teach. But this is your classroom and you set the agenda. Her professor has no say what so ever.
The point is that it reveals what education majors are told to teach - all liberal social justice stuff.
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Old 02-07-2021, 06:13 AM
 
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Lack of what terminology? "Teacher Assistant?" Every college has its own terminology for this phase.

Or the liberal newspeak terminology that Kamala Harris broke through barriers of being a woman in politics and a person of color.
Don’t defend yourself. I find that when leftists have no way to defend their insanity, they call the person who reveals it a liar.
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Old 02-07-2021, 06:22 AM
 
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What an odd thing for her professor to do. Why would they bother giving you instructions when it is the student who is being taught not you.

Not sure this one incident is indicative of anything in general.

Anecdotal indeed!
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Old 02-07-2021, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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If I were a student in your college class, I would ask for a refund.
Yup.
Thank God I didn't have kids.
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Old 02-07-2021, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Parents are the first educators. Don’t blame teachers for the parents failure.
Well, THIS I agree with. And if I had had children, and they had been subject to what I hear about 'education' nowadays, I would have home-schooled them. This is why I am happy I did not have children.
It is not the school's job to teach kids to be SJWs or have that worldview. They are supposed to, I THOUGHT, teach them basically skills, history, etc, and let them grow their own philosophies and outlooks on life - not what the teacher (excuse me, educator) thinks they should do.
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