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Old 02-08-2021, 10:20 AM
 
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What are you talking about? Are you American?
Sovereign Citizen. A particular brand of far right craziness. You are wasting your time.

 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:20 AM
 
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Where the nuance is, is that you can't just ignore the problem, which a lot of people on the right do with stating what you state and then dismissing taking any action at all to deal with the issue of a landed generational black underclass that is disproportionate to that of whites.

What the current militant black/woke narrative tell us is that we can only deal with this issue by deconstructing everything about America because it is rotten to the core. We can't fix the issues in black communities, so we need to tear the country down and re-build with with blacks as a preferred class in all aspects of life, and any area where black people fail or fall behind HAS to be deemed as racist and that too turned upside down. Black people do more poorly at math? Change math requirements.

It's destructive and stupid mentality that has existed on college campuses for decades...it's now mainstream and it's leads to disastrous consequences.
That’s because there’s an underlying objective. The anti-American, Marxist-leaning “woke” crowd want to deconstruct everything about America because they want to rebuild it as a socialist country. They’ve hidden behind the BLM narrative because anytime someone complains, it’s......racist! It’s a way to shut up the patriots who don’t want to see democracy fail and socialism take over.
 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:21 AM
 
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To think these activists speak for all blacks is a scam the media propaganda machine is critical in perpetuating.

Big corporations now bow to the social justice idiocy and companies like J&J embrace the terrorist group BLM.

It is a trick the left uses to divide the country and elicit comments like, 'if all blacks want to be separate from whites....". Which they then use as 'evidence' of hatred and further divide the country.

BLM org is a perfect example, they create a name that defies anyone to oppose their mission. If you are against BLM you hate blacks, you are racist and a white supremacist. BLm org cares not a whit for black lives or the truth, theirs is a socialist goal to divide the country.

The danger comes from the loss of the free press to shine light on such nefarious tactics. Now we have large corporations with no backbone and profit in mind, fearing a public fight with the social justice warriors and bad publicity. These businesses will sell out their country for a profit.

All these black activists use the same strategy, they spew some extreme language which elicits a likewise negative response which is then used to incite division. The individual activist should be the target as he hides behind the black community and portrays all blacks as a monolith with the exact same thoughts and feelings. the activist is the one who is racist! The activists pretends he hates racism while he employs racism to further his agenda.

We are now betrayed by big business and the former free press as the first socialist regime takes over the country.

1776-2020
The very fact that you can post this indicates that most of your post is extreme hyperbole. Take a breath.
 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:27 AM
 
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That’s because there’s an underlying objective. The anti-American, Marxist-leaning “woke” crowd want to deconstruct everything about America because they want to rebuild it as a socialist country. They’ve hidden behind the BLM narrative because anytime someone complains, it’s......racist! It’s a way to shut up the patriots who don’t want to see democracy fail and socialism take over.
But this is where we will always differ...doing things for the collective good: social security, medicare, college tuition aide, etc, are all "socialism" form the perspective of right wingers such as yourself, and therefore they are the same as gulags, re-education camps, bread lines, etc, as that's where it all leads. The extreme right wing hyperbole ends all discussions of things that could actually help, because anything administered for the public good by the government is inherently evil.

Then I point to Europe and show you no gulags, you ignore it, and go back on the same tirades the next go around.
 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:35 AM
 
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On one hand, you say blacks just want to be left alone; yet on the other, you accuse every white who objects to the Black National Anthem being sung at the Super Bowl, and a black poet, and the sole entertainer at half-time is black, and a black woman has to mangle.....oops, sing....the National Anthem, etc., etc. We had one token white boy (a rural country boy) have a role, but other than that, the pre-show and entertainment was almost entirely focused on black people.

And this isn’t a black-bashing thread, although apparently anytime whites object to this over-the-top reaction to a false narrative, and this focus on blacks to the extent an alien would think whites are a minority in this country, the way the work crowd hush them up is to scream racism.
Imagine treating The Weeknd as just a "black guy". First of all The Weeknd is an Ethiopian-Canadian, he is in no way African American. Second of all, The Weeknd is one of the best selling artists of this generation. I don't personally like his music that much, but the way you denigrate him as if he isn't the level of Bruno Mars, Shakira and J.Lo and other Superbowl acts as if they picked a random black guy of the street because he is black, is nothing short of ignorant. The dude has 4 songs over a billion views on Youtube, and is extremely popular to the point were 90% of Americans under 30/40 have heard of him.

So yes, it's "racist" to even imply The Weeknd got picked because he's black when he's one of the biggest artists in the world, as in Top 5 in the English Speaking world. Even Jazmine Sullivan, H.E.R and Eric Church (the "token white boy") are all well regarded and massive artists in their own right, although non of them to the level of The Weeknd. Amanda Gorman has been in the news because of her powerful poem.
 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:37 AM
 
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But this is where we will always differ...doing things for the collective good: social security, medicare, college tuition aide, etc, are all "socialism" form the perspective of right wingers such as yourself, and therefore they are the same as gulags, re-education camps, bread lines, etc, as that's where it all leads. The extreme right wing hyperbole ends all discussions of things that could actually help, because anything administered for the public good by the government is inherently evil.

Then I point to Europe and show you no gulags, you ignore it, and go back on the same tirades the next go around.
This has been explained to you before. There is a difference between having some social programs for the collective good and having a socialist country, and as far as “the extreme right wing hyperbole” ending all discussing, what about the way opinions that deviate from the liberal view are censored, and people banned?

You don’t think the talk of making lists to keep Trump supporters from being hired, or individuals being fired for expressing a Republican viewpoint, is ending all discussions? Or your remark about my going on a tirade? How can we have discussions when leftists like you insult and demean people simply because they disagree with the liberal agenda?
 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:39 AM
 
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Imagine treating The Weeknd as just a "black guy". First of all The Weeknd is an Ethiopian-Canadian, he is in no way African American. Second of all, The Weeknd is one of the best selling artists of this generation. I don't personally like his music that much, but the way you denigrate him as if he isn't the level of Bruno Mars, Shakira and J.Lo and other Superbowl acts as if they picked a random black guy of the street because he is black, is nothing short of ignorant. The dude has 4 songs over a billion views on Youtube, and is extremely popular to the point were 90% of Americans under 30/40 have heard of him.

So yes, it's "racist" to even imply The Weeknd got picked because he's black when he's one of the biggest artists in the world, as in Top 5 in the English Speaking world. Even Jazmine Sullivan, H.E.R and Eric Church (the "token white boy") are all well regarded and massive artists in their own right, although non of them to the level of The Weeknd. Amanda Gorman has been in the news because of her powerful poem.
Except that EVERYONE was picked because they are black, or represent black people! The Black National Anthem, the black poet, the black singer, the black half-time guy (and sorry, never heard of him before), etc., etc. The entire thing is overkill, and it would have been nice for everyone to come together for an evening of football without ramming through the black racism thing again.

And it is not racist to point it out. That’s the way you woke leftists have been trying to silence dissenting opinions, and it’s getting tiresome.
 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:40 AM
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On one hand, you say blacks just want to be left alone; yet on the other, you accuse every white who objects to the Black National Anthem being sung at the Super Bowl, and a black poet, and the sole entertainer at half-time is black, and a black woman has to mangle.....oops, sing....the National Anthem, etc., etc. We had one token white boy (a rural country boy) have a role, but other than that, the pre-show and entertainment was almost entirely focused on black people.

And this isn’t a black-bashing thread, although apparently anytime whites object to this over-the-top reaction to a false narrative, and this focus on blacks to the extent an alien would think whites are a minority in this country, the way the work crowd hush them up is to scream racism.
Its clear black and white people can't live together if white people cant give black people four hours without making a big deal out of it. It wasn't even four hours it was a song and you are so put out for having to suffer through a black moment.
 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:45 AM
 
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Its clear black and white people can't live together if white people cant give black people four hours without making a big deal out of it. It wasn't even four hours it was a song and you are so put out for having to suffer through a black moment.
Four hours?? It’s been going on for almost a year now. Turn on the TV, or go to a website, or stop in at a store. Any alien from space would think the country is 80% black based on media. Why do stores have to identify the black-owned brands so we can discriminate against white business owners? Why can’t I find a model to show me what the lipstick would look like on a white person? Why do we have to hear how BLACK lives matter, and if anyone dares suggest that all lives matter, they can lose their job?

Enough is enough.
 
Old 02-08-2021, 11:02 AM
 
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Except that EVERYONE was picked because they are black, or represent black people! The Black National Anthem, the black poet, the black singer, the black half-time guy (and sorry, never heard of him before), etc., etc. The entire thing is overkill, and it would have been nice for everyone to come together for an evening of football without ramming through the black racism thing again.

And it is not racist to point it out. That’s the way you woke leftists have been trying to silence dissenting opinions, and it’s getting tiresome.
No, you are assuming that. Was "Lift Every Voice and Sing" even called the Black National Anthem? (I didn't watch the Super Bowl, because knowing Brady's in it, it was obvious he was going to dominate, also I'm a Soccer fan at heart and stopped watching football games the same year people stopped hosting football parties on Thanksgiving).

Amanda Gorman is a poet first and foremost, the words black/white was never even mentioned in her poem. Like I said The Weeknd is a "mega-superstar", the dude payed $7 million dollars of his own money to do the show as the NFL was tight this year due to COVID (no fans).

At best you can argued he bribed the NFL to produce it, but saying he was chosen because he was black. Saying Amanda Gorman was chosen because she was black when their wasn't even a mention of race in the poem but instead she was uplifting Veterans (The Wounded Warrior Project, which I ironically have contributed a little bit too) again it's insulting. She has been trending for weeks, in the national conscious due to her poem.

Your the one inserting race. "Lift Every Voice and Sing" wasn't even referred to as the Black National Anthem (from the Youtube videos I see of the performance). Again Alicia Keys is a superstar. I will say from the Video the song was definitely politicized as it seemed that BLM activists were in the video.
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