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Old 02-08-2021, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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I think that religion should be kept out of government. Period.
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Old 02-08-2021, 10:53 PM
 
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I think that religion should be kept out of government. Period.
Agree. I do wish they would do away with the faith-based agendas.
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Old 02-08-2021, 10:58 PM
 
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Three quotes from the above article:



The nun was wrong. She must not have been aware of this:

Though Trump has been firmly anti-abortion since he began his campaign for the presidency, he has a history of supporting abortion rights for women. In an October 1999 interview with late journalist Tim Russert, Trump said he was “very pro-choice” — even if he didn’t like the principles behind abortion. “I hate the concept of abortion. I hate it. I hate everything it stands for. I cringe when I listen to people debating the subject. But you still — I just believe in choice.” If given the opportunity, Trump told Russert that he wouldn’t ban “partial-birth abortions.”

https://time.com/4538293/donald-trum...-third-debate/

As usual, Trump tailored his answers to his audience. That's why he's the "lyingest" US president in history.
Bill Clinton did that a lot, as well as Hillary
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Old 02-09-2021, 08:32 AM
 
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Funny how some only focus on abortion. That part about remarriage after divorce is ignored. There are plenty of people who would never consider an abortion but believe it is a matter between a woman, her clergy and her doctor. Different Christian religions have their own beliefs as to when life begins.

In fact, the Southern Baptist supported abortion until they saw it could be a great political wedge.
Too many people get the remarriage after divorce part wrong:

Matthew 19:9 says: "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery."

So if one of the partners commits sexual immorality, the other partner is free to remarry. It does not matter which partner obtained the divorce.

The problem is that Democrats want to force religions to change their beliefs (which means unconstitutionally prohibiting parts of the Bible) so all religions allow abortion, all GLBT beliefs, prostitution, adultery, and other sins that Democrats see nothing wrong with.

And Democrats even counter the science that says that male and female bodies are structurally different enough that they can't compete equally in athletic competitions. They want to deny science to have their wackified version of egalitarianism.

And the slavery the Bible allowed would today be called public restitution. No Israelite could become a slave in Israel unless he had committed some kind of wrong.
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Old 02-09-2021, 08:44 AM
 
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Too many people get the remarriage after divorce part wrong:

Matthew 19:9 says: "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery."

So if one of the partners commits sexual immorality, the other partner is free to remarry. It does not matter which partner obtained the divorce.

The problem is that Democrats want to force religions to change their beliefs (which means unconstitutionally prohibiting parts of the Bible) so all religions allow abortion, all GLBT beliefs, prostitution, adultery, and other sins that Democrats see nothing wrong with.

And Democrats even counter the science that says that male and female bodies are structurally different enough that they can't compete equally in athletic competitions. They want to deny science to have their wackified version of egalitarianism.

And the slavery the Bible allowed would today be called public restitution. No Israelite could become a slave in Israel unless he had committed some kind of wrong.
Oh, I always was familiar with the adultery part. I suspect that's why it was dropped by most sates in favor of no fault.

IIRC, in the time of Jesus, slaves could be kept 7 years, then set free with some cash.
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Old 02-09-2021, 08:51 AM
 
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Biden promised to be president to all American's. The religious fanatics just can't accept the fact that not everyone will think the way they do about religion and abortion. Biden understands that concept and respects it. I'm an atheist. I'm pro choice. Why do I have to bend my believes to your religious will? Might as well call yourself ISIL 2.0 with that mentality.

That's why they don't like Biden. He represents all of us and that includes the pro choice. Fanatics can't handle anything that differs from their belief system and will readily sell out this country for anyone who will over turn Roe V Wade. Did Trump do what he promised to do and over turn it? Nope. It was nothing more than a fever dream and a way to rationalize supporting a crook.
Biden does not represent all of us. He does not care that he would unconstitutionally force people to do things that disobey their own religions.

The fact that he is spending tax money on abortion meas that I am disobeying my religion when I pay the tax that is used for this.

He wants to force people do do things that disobey their own religions when he wants to make bakers make homosexual wedding cakes and force caterers to cater homosexual weddings. I Timothy 5:22 says "Do not ... take part in the sins of others".

Roe v Wade was obtained by judicial activism, not by following the Constitution as judges are supposed to do. Because the judges that made that decision cheated to make it, it can be overturned. It is unconstitutional to kill someone without due process.

Trump had no power to overturn Roe v Wade. Only the Supreme Court or a Constitutional Amendment can do that. He did nominate 3 justices who obey the Constitution instead of the liberals.
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Old 02-09-2021, 09:10 AM
 
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Oh, I always was familiar with the adultery part. I suspect that's why it was dropped by most sates in favor of no fault.

IIRC, in the time of Jesus, slaves could be kept 7 years, then set free with some cash.
So do you mean they "sate" the sexual appetites of perverts?

It does not matter if the state allows the divorce. Most churches will not marry two people if one is divorced unless the divorce was caused by the other spouse's adultery. But the state usurped the power to marry from the church so it can marry two people the church cannot marry.

Contrary to Scripture, Catholicism does not allow any remarriage after a divorce.

What cash? Their work was considered to have paid the debt to society. All debts were cancelled after 7 years. Note that slaves could be kept only 6 years.

Israelites had to commit some offense to become slaves in the first place.
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Old 02-09-2021, 09:49 AM
 
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Conservative christians? What a joke! The majority are cafeteria christians who pick and choose to suit their own situations. i.e., abortion, oh my, they are solidly against abortions, but when it come to executions....off with their heads. The truth is that the self-proclaimed conservative christian is really looking out for themselves. These people support big and small businesses which need a steady supply of uneducated people to work for them at the lowest cost in order to peak their profits. They need debt slaves who cannot get a bank account, nor a CC, etc., and are forced to pay to cash their paychecks, pay to pay their bills, etc. However, these conservative christians do provide services like Title Loan, Payday Loan, etc., that charge up to 1000% interest to meet their debt slave's emergency medical needs. These conservative christians force women who cannot afford a child, many of whom are drug addicted, to bring a child into this world who is in withdrawal needing medical attention and to suffer the effects of lack of food and/or proper diet. Worst yet, once born, these conservative christians do nothing to help the mother or the child after the birth.

Most conservative christians don't like catholics. They sure as hell didn't like President J.F. Kennedy.
Most of them care much for muslims either. However, they simply loved Trump who was a spawn of Satan. I doubt you will find a commandment in the Bible that Trump has not broken at least once. While in office I think Trump attended a church service twice...he was too busy golfing. Yet those conservative christians praised him and some even labeled him the second coming of Christ.

Trump has done the majority a great service. Trump has shown the world the real character of the republican party and conservative christians.
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Old 02-09-2021, 09:54 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Who cares?
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Old 02-09-2021, 09:55 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Biden only uses the Bible when it can be leveraged for his agenda/politics. The remainder of the time Biden qnd Dems trash and stomp on it routinely.


So you'd prefer they gas people to make room to stand in front of a church waving a Bible like a blooming idiot?
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