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Old 02-10-2021, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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A gene therapy drug that deploys messenger RNA to permanently and irreversibly change the protein generation output of your cells. You're a braver man than me.
It is a vaccine because it produces immunity to the virus.

It does not "permanently and irreversibly change the protein generation output of your cells". Once the cell displays the spike protein the immune system finds it and gets rid of it. The mRNA is rapidly destroyed.
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Old 02-10-2021, 10:46 PM
 
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It is a vaccine because it produces immunity to the virus.
Since when?

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It does not "permanently and irreversibly change the protein generation output of your cells". Once the cell displays the spike protein the immune system finds it and gets rid of it. The mRNA is rapidly destroyed.
Looks pretty permanent:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00272-5
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Old 02-10-2021, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Since when?
As demonstrated by two large Phase 3 studies.

Different technology and application.
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Old 02-10-2021, 10:57 PM
 
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Since when?


Looks pretty permanent:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00272-5
Lol, you did not read it, did you?
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Old 02-10-2021, 10:58 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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"...rates of the condition in vaccinated people did not appear higher than the rates normally found in the U.S. population..."

So... possible coincidence.
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Old 02-10-2021, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I gt my first Moderna vaccine shot yesterday.
My arm is sore at the injection site, but that's all. I've had tetanus shots that hurt much worse.

I sure feel relieved to finally have some good protection against the Covid virus.
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Old 02-10-2021, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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ITP associated with COVID-19

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7501509/

"Immune thrombocytopenia, often known as immune thrombocytopenic purpura (ITP), has emerged as an important complication of COVID-19. A systematic review was done to analyze the clinical profile and outcomes in a total of 45 cases of new-onset ITP in COVID-19 patients described in literature until date."

That is only through the end of last August.
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Old 02-11-2021, 09:01 AM
 
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ITP associated with COVID-19

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7501509/

"Immune thrombocytopenia, often known as immune thrombocytopenic purpura (ITP), has emerged as an important complication of COVID-19. A systematic review was done to analyze the clinical profile and outcomes in a total of 45 cases of new-onset ITP in COVID-19 patients described in literature until date."

That is only through the end of last August.
Excellent post. Let's underline the important takeaway: ITP is a complication of the virus, not the vaccine.
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Old 02-11-2021, 09:03 AM
 
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Excellent post. Let's underline the important takeaway: ITP is a complication of the virus, not the vaccine.
No, that's incorrect.
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Old 02-11-2021, 09:50 AM
 
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No, that's incorrect.
Link to peer-reviewed academic journal that supports your thesis? YouTube videos don't count.
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