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Old 06-16-2021, 06:22 PM
 
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All of Murray's documentation is available here on the website of the publisher. Scroll down to see the file on violent crime by zip code.

 
Old 06-16-2021, 07:25 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDYGo0UgIVM
 
Old 06-16-2021, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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It's been 27 years since Charles Murray wrote The Bell Curve. Now his new book expands on that work's most controversial themes.

https://www.amazon.com/Facing-Realit...1&unfiltered=1

I couldn't agree more.
Did he ever serve in the US military? I did twenty years ago. I never saw any "group differences." Skin color, race, ethnicity didn't make any difference. However, what did seem to make a huge difference was where the person grew up.

If they grew up in a very large city, they tended to be lazier, with a smug entitled attitude, were less likely to be self motivated, and were less respectful and more apt to whine and complain and question authority when asked to do something that was strenuous or labor intensive, and they tended to be more of a disciplinary problem.

If they grew up in a small town or on a farm, they were almost always the exact opposite.

I doubt this trend changed over the years, in fact it's probably become even more pronounced. What do you vets, or currently serving members say?
 
Old 06-16-2021, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The founders believed that democracy only works when people know each other. Democracy works best in small countries. The smaller the better.

Large countries are always dysfunctional. And large diverse countries are the worst of all.
Diverse, or Balkanized? Or are they the same thing?
 
Old 06-16-2021, 07:39 PM
 
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Did he ever serve in the US military? I did twenty years ago. I never saw any "group differences." Skin color, race, ethnicity didn't make any difference. However, what did seem to make a huge difference was where the person grew up.

If they grew up in a very large city, they tended to be lazier, with a smug entitled attitude, were less likely to be self motivated, and were less respectful and more apt to whine and complain and question authority when asked to do something that was strenuous or labor intensive, and they tended to be more of a disciplinary problem.

If they grew up in a small town or on a farm, they were almost always the exact opposite.

I doubt this trend changed over the years, in fact it's probably become even more pronounced. What do you vets, or currently serving members say?
Charles A. Murray never served in the military. And neither have I, so I will have to take your word on this.
 
Old 06-16-2021, 07:40 PM
 
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Did he ever serve in the US military? I did twenty years ago. I never saw any "group differences."
With its aptitude tests, the military is able to reject almost everyone who is in the bottom quarter of the population by IQ. It's also highly disciplined and conformist. So it's understandable that such differences would be less apparent in those institutions than almost anywhere else.
 
Old 06-16-2021, 07:43 PM
 
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What an ignorant comment coming from the author. What kind of person thinks like that?

It is back up by data...
 
Old 06-17-2021, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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What an ignorant comment coming from the author. What kind of person thinks like that?
Ignorant? No.
Inconvenient? Yes.
Indisputable? Yes, based upon verifiable facts.

This book will be denounced by the Woke, not because it's conclusions are wrong, instead, because it factually reveals truths that they simply don't want to be true.
 
Old 06-17-2021, 11:47 AM
 
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I've noticed something. So many right-wing people (not all though) are big-upping Charles A. Murray and those peddling "race realism". Charles A. Murray, as well as Steve Sailer and Don Black, they are paleoconservatives and right wingers. I notice on this thread that Black people are the most complained about group. Several threads have popped up in the past, that involve an obsession about who Blacks vote for. Threads that involve stuff like "why can't Blacks vote Republican" or "when did Blacks get so liberal". And then I come across a thread like this. This is the way I see it. Anyone who finds it concerning that Black Americans vote Democrat at high rates, praising the likes of Charles A. Murray is only going to make things worse. For those who already thing that conservative = racist, this will only make it worse.
 
Old 06-17-2021, 11:49 AM
 
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With its aptitude tests, the military is able to reject almost everyone who is in the bottom quarter of the population by IQ. It's also highly disciplined and conformist. So it's understandable that such differences would be less apparent in those institutions than almost anywhere else.
African-Americans constitute 17% of the U.S. military, while being 13% of the American population at large. And considering that many college-bound people don't join the military, I'd think about that for a while.
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