Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Closed Thread Start New Thread
 
Old 02-13-2021, 09:16 AM
 
282 posts, read 114,421 times
Reputation: 184

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by rjshae View Post
Climate change is not a weather forecast. Trying to conflate the two is just coal company propaganda. What it does predict is greater weather extremes. Guess what's happening? This cold snap may be a natural consequence of the unhinging of the polar vortex through arctic warming. But that is just speculation on my part. Arctic warming, however, is happening.
No, it isn't.

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Arctic summers ice-free 'by 2013'

 
Old 02-13-2021, 09:18 AM
 
282 posts, read 114,421 times
Reputation: 184
Quote:
Originally Posted by GalileoSmith View Post
Unusually cold weather at the local level can be a sign of global warming. It has to do with jet streams being redirected and a blast of cold air from the north rather than a more temperate flow of air from the west. However unusually cold weather is probably just a normal part of weather. Over the course of a few years the average area temperature would have risen when compared to 100 years ago. The rise in temperatures has to do with greenhouse gases in the atmosphere keeping the earth's surface warmer. The greenhouse gases are known to come from burning carbon-base fuels. It is proven. The ultimate damage is unknown.
Greenhouses produce oxygen, not CO2.
 
Old 02-13-2021, 09:19 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
89,031 posts, read 44,840,107 times
Reputation: 13715
Quote:
Originally Posted by GalileoSmith View Post
Unusually cold weather at the local level can be a sign of global warming. It has to do with jet streams being redirected and a blast of cold air from the north rather than a more temperate flow of air from the west. However unusually cold weather is probably just a normal part of weather. Over the course of a few years the average area temperature would have risen when compared to 100 years ago. The rise in temperatures has to do with greenhouse gases in the atmosphere keeping the earth's surface warmer. The greenhouse gases are known to come from burning carbon-base fuels. It is proven. The ultimate damage is unknown.
No, a much more relevant global warming gas is water vapor, not CO2 which can either warm or cool the earth.

It’s Water Vapor, Not CO2 - ACS Climate Science Toolkit
 
Old 02-13-2021, 09:24 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
25,749 posts, read 18,818,821 times
Reputation: 22600
Interesting. It's been abnormally warm this winter in Utah. It's actually RAINING right now. Guess you guys are getting all of our cold.
 
Old 02-13-2021, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Here
2,301 posts, read 2,033,947 times
Reputation: 1712
Quote:
Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
No, a much more relevant global warming gas is water vapor, not CO2 which can either warm or cool the earth.

It’s Water Vapor, Not CO2 - ACS Climate Science Toolkit
Water vapor is a more relevant greenhouse gas but that water vapor is being warmed more than it once was due to the other greenhouse gases, greenhouse gases being emitted by carbon-based fuels.
 
Old 02-13-2021, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Houston
26,979 posts, read 15,892,870 times
Reputation: 11259
From Missouri I can drive in this stuff but most of my fellow Houstonians can't.
 
Old 02-13-2021, 09:45 AM
 
3,462 posts, read 2,789,333 times
Reputation: 4330
Any change in the weather can be interpreted to fit a narrative.
 
Old 02-13-2021, 09:46 AM
 
Location: West Coast U.S.A.
2,911 posts, read 1,360,344 times
Reputation: 3979
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClaraC View Post
On a serious note, this is awful. Our trees are laden with ice, that won't melt for many more days because it's not getting above freezing, and the branches and even whole large trees are toppling. Power lines are snapping, and huge quadrants of the city lost electric power, for more than a day, meaning no way to charge communication devices and no way to leave the home due to icy, hilly roads. In the hillier locations, plumbing relies on electric pumps, which were down, causing huge wastewater emergencies. On Monday, we have a predicted low of 2 degrees, which will likely kill off much of our abundant wildlife. So there are messages on Nextdoor to make sure your bird feeders are full, and your bird baths are tended to provide fresh unfrozen water. And people are reporting unprecedented traffic at their feeders - the birds and squirrels know what's coming.

There are messages from city leaders to please check on neighbors who may be elderly or isolated, to see if they're ok.

Local hotels are full of people who were freezing in the dark. This, during a very celebrated recent downturn in COVID due to our careful masking and distancing.

Huge wake up call. In northern states they have infrastructure that deals with massive prolonged ice storms, and we do not.
Wow, that's pretty bad! I hope things ease up soon!
 
Old 02-13-2021, 09:48 AM
 
Location: 0.83 Atmospheres
11,474 posts, read 11,562,622 times
Reputation: 11986
People who do not understand the difference between long term climate patterns and a single weather event are either being completely disingenuous or have zero intellectual curiosity.
 
Old 02-13-2021, 09:55 AM
 
282 posts, read 114,421 times
Reputation: 184
Quote:
Originally Posted by whogo View Post
From Missouri I can drive in this stuff but most of my fellow Houstonians can't.
Missouri doesn't get black ice.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:21 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top