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Old 02-13-2021, 11:07 AM
 
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Its NOT one particular event, its that we are getting clusters of these 100 year events year after year. And anybody not noticing disappearance of glaciers and permafrost and calving of ice sheets in Greenland...

I think the deniers must own coastal properties and are trying to get their money back out of them from bigger suckers before they are reclaimed by the rising sea levels. And govt stops offering subsidized flood insurance. Hey Republicans, how about eliminating subsidized flood insurance. Couldnt be because it mostly benefits the wealthy could it? If you are stupid enough to build on beach or in flood plain, then you should own the effects.
Like Obama? He bought TWO oceanfront properties, on islands, no less. One in Hawaii and another on Martha's Vineyard. Seems he has no worries about global warming and rising oceans, whatsoever.

 
Old 02-13-2021, 11:11 AM
 
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Like Obama? He bought TWO oceanfront properties, on islands, no less. One in Hawaii and another on Martha's Vineyard. Seems he has no worries about global warming, whatsoever.
Beachfront property? Or higher level property. Its not all the same, unlike the deniers, people that pay attention to DETAIL and dont fool themselves in support of some political BS, well the detail people win in the long run. But hey if he recently bought beach front property then he is a FOOL. I didnt vote for him, though he was great public speaker, but didnt agree with his overly conservative politics.
 
Old 02-13-2021, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Don't worry, just give more money, votes, and support to democrats so they can pretend to control mother nature on their private jet.


How many houses do Obama, Sanders, Biden, and Pelosi have?
 
Old 02-13-2021, 11:17 AM
 
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CO2 is a heat trapping gas, it absorbs IR radiation and warms the earth, that's not opinion it's a scientific fact.
CO2 also cools the earth. Scientific fact.

Cooling of Atmosphere Due to CO2 Emission
 
Old 02-13-2021, 11:18 AM
 
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Beachfront property? Or higher level property.
Beachfront. Look up the elevation levels.
 
Old 02-13-2021, 11:28 AM
 
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CO2 is a heat trapping gas, it absorbs IR radiation and warms the earth, that's not opinion it's a scientific fact.
The volumetric stuff in the glassed-in shed roof vestibule entrance of a Dunkin' Donuts getting sun exposure all day and warmed several degrees more than the surroundings doesn't contain any more CO2 than the air inside the store or outside in the parking lot.
 
Old 02-13-2021, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Some say it is
I don’t know if it’s true, but the December and January of this year and 2020 was the hottest I’ve experienced in recent memory. I swear it was 70 degrees to 80-something nearly the entirety of both months with a few cold days sprinkled in between. We were honestly due for some cold.

Also Climate Change doesn’t mean increasing temperatures in all climates at all times. It means increasing averages. For Canada and Russia it’s honestly a good thing. (Maybe bad for Russia as if it melts then Millions of Chinese can move into Eastern Russia with less fear of the climate, as their has been a push to expand the Chinese influence in surrounding countries). For other places it means increased desertification but it also means some places that were dryer get wetter.

It’s a net negative to humanity because we settle in the best spots to settle generally and so those spots change that leads to massive forced migrations across the world. With hard borders you can’t have millions pushed out of India or China moving to Russia since much of it has become fertile. You can’t have millions of people from Northern Latin America moving to Chile and Argentina.

Climate Change is also leading to generally more extreme weather. Because as the earth gets hotter the climate changes. So if an area was settled because the other areas had a large amount of Tsunamis and Hurricanes that it was basically unlivable many of those historic patterns change and now you see the places were humans did settle getting these massive storms that made the previous location unlivable.

I think we can honestly largely mitigate the worst effects of Climate Change. Millions of people move to Phoenix and The Arab Peninsula with modern technology. We can turn desert like climates into tropical wonderlands. What we need is the political will to do so. Florida doesn’t need to be under water in 50 years, if massive amounts of water is diverted into the Sahara desert or any desert. We have the technology to do it but it would be a multi-billion dollar money sink that is unlikely to lead to profit for those involved.
 
Old 02-13-2021, 11:56 AM
 
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Plenty of water vapor here and we've been about 15 degrees below normal for 6 weeks.

Again, it's a mistake to think CO2 only warms the earth. It cools it, as well. It all depends on non-CO2-related conditions whether CO2 warms or cools the earth.
This is what you need to know... human activity, specifically the burning of fossil fuels, has changed climate at the global level. This is the overwhelming scientific consensus. I grant you that a person could say that it is the "crazy liberals" making it all up to control us. Or a person could say that the renewable-energy industry is in cahoots with climatologists to trick us out of our money. But the bottom line is, you are not going to find a reputable scientific website that has an opinion on climate change that states that human activity is not a huge part of climate change.
 
Old 02-13-2021, 12:03 PM
 
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This is what you need to know... human activity, specifically the burning of fossil fuels, has changed climate at the global level. This is the overwhelming scientific consensus. I grant you that a person could say that it is the "crazy liberals" making it all up to control us. Or a person could say that the renewable-energy industry is in cahoots with climatologists to trick us out of our money. But the bottom line is, you are not going to find a reputable scientific website that has an opinion on climate change that states that human activity is not a huge part of climate change.
Human activity is not a "huge" part of climate change. For pete's sake, the earth's climate had been changing for billions of years before humans even existed, and has been both much warmer and much colder than it is now. Do any of you even stop to think before you say something so stupid?
 
Old 02-13-2021, 12:06 PM
 
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I forget deniers only listen to their fake news and dont care about actual facts, its all politics for them. Glaciers are not growing, THEY ARE RETREATING AND DISAPPEARING ENTIRELY around the world. THE ICE IS DISAPPEARING in places like Greenland and Antarctica.. You can have an unusual warm year, but its year after year. Chunk of ice in Antarctica the size of one of smaller US states broke off. As the witch in Wizard of Oz said "I'm melting.... melting" But hey if you believe its all illusion, go buy some Florida coastal property cause pretty sure it will soon be offered at bargain price if not already. Just bring your hip waders. Probably better to buy some of that newly exposed farmland in Greenland.
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