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Old 02-20-2021, 08:56 PM
 
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Odd that you would make this statement as a number of SMBs and corporations are looking to the state/federal government to mandate vaccinations to absolve themselves of making tough decisions that may result in twitterlike backlash.

Also odd that you are probably the first person in my nearly 2100+ posts that called me a liberal.
I don't represent those small businesses or corporations. Everyone lobbies for something.

I'm just calling things based on observation. People who liked Trump's liberal policies are liberal.
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Old 02-20-2021, 09:01 PM
 
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until every airline does it.
Not a single airline will ever mandate vaccination. You’ll see some international countries require or for entry but yeah, I can guarantee you no airline is willingly going to eliminate like half of their flying base
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Old 02-20-2021, 09:02 PM
 
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Not a single airline will ever mandate vaccination. You’ll see some international countries require or for entry but yeah, I can guarantee you no airline is willingly going to eliminate like half of their flying base
I think we will reach well above 50% of the population in vaccinations.
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Old 02-20-2021, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Interesting question.

There's been some really interesting cases on this. Particularly local governments that forced small retail businesses to shut down while allowing large retail stores (like Walmart) to stay open. This favored large retail outlets over small businesses. I find this to be unfair treatment and in violation of business owners' rights.

Now if you go by the when the bill of rights was created, the framers did not intend for The Constitution to apply to state and local government. But things have most certainly changed since then. Particularly the fourteenth amendment which said that some parts of the bill of rights may be enforced against the state and local governments. However, it didn't indicate which rights. In 1926 a key supreme court ruling set precedent for just this. And when I say "just this", I mean Justice. That is Liberty and Justice.

So there you have it. A federal judge would have to rule that the shut down was in violation of liberty or justice. Like the initial example with small retailers and large retailers, it's straight forward in terms of justice. But statewide shutdowns and whether this violates liberty or justice is up for interpretation by federal courts. We'll have to see where this goes.
Generally small businesses that sold essential goods were allowed to stay open. It was my general impression that it was the goods sold, not the size, of the business that was the primary guiding factor. Though I do wonder why more sellers of non essential goods didn't diversify their products and sell essential goods along with non essential goods like Walmart.
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Old 02-20-2021, 09:05 PM
 
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I think we will reach well above 50% of the population in vaccinations.
60 is the best we are gonna get I think
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Old 02-20-2021, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Houston
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60 is the best we are gonna get I think
Unless we start paying people to get it.
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Old 02-20-2021, 09:09 PM
 
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Unless we start paying people to get it.
You’d have to pay most people something beyond reason I think. I would consider it for 100,000 or more
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Old 02-20-2021, 09:10 PM
 
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You’d have to pay most people something beyond reason I think. I would consider it for 100,000 or more
Most people would do it for far less.
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Old 02-20-2021, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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I don't represent those small businesses or corporations. Everyone lobbies for something.

I'm just calling things based on observation. People who liked Trump's liberal policies are liberal.
Yup, unless you have financial interests, you don't give a rip. The mission statement of every lawyer.

It doesn't bother me if you misidentify me as a liberal. I would rather be a liberal than lie to myself about my ideology while supporting an infringement of individual freedoms.
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Old 02-20-2021, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Houston
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You’d have to pay most people something beyond reason I think. I would consider it for 100,000 or more
You aren't most people. A homeless guy would do it for $20 a typical college student for maybe $500.

People sell their own blood and plasma.

Make vaccination s requirement to get that $1400 and we got 90%.
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