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The first thing they need to do is end the special protection the gun makers have under the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA). That law protects firearms manufacturers and dealers from being held liable when crimes have been committed with their products.
By the same rational - should car and knife manufactures be held liable for crimes committed with their products? Maybe alcohol or baseball bat manufactures. Then maybe they go farther - how about a frying pan or piece of lumber used to bash someone or a medicine used to poison someone - where does it end?
Everyone who is in jail today was once a "law abiding" citizen and the countries with the loose gun laws are the world leaders in incarceration rates. It`s not a coincidence. https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...tes-by-country
Your link says nothing about your premise - for example China bans all guns yet has a high incarceration rate.
Between 2018 and 2019, the number of victims of homicide and related offences in Australia increased by 10% (39 victims) to 416 victims. This was the first national increase in four years.
The following states and territories contributed the most to this increase:
Queensland (up 25 victims)
Victoria (up 16 victims)
New South Wales (up 14 victims)
All homicide and related offences increased in Australia between 2018 and 2019:
Attempted murder (up 21 victims or 17%)
Manslaughter (up 17 victims or 59%)
Murder (up 6 victims or 3%)
For victims of homicide and related offences:
Over two-thirds (70%) were male (290 victims)
Most (63%) occurred at a residential location (262 victims)
Almost a third (30%) were family and domestic violence (FDV) related (125 victims)
A weapon was used in the majority of offences (66% or 273 victims), most commonly a knife (126 victims) or firearm (92 victims)
Just FYI - Australia is about the size of the US with population of about 2x Pennsylvania or a little over that of Florida. Queensland has about the population of South Carolina with an area bigger than TX, CA, MT, NM & SC combined. New South Wales has about the Population of Washington state in an area about the size of WA, FL, NY, IL, VA, MA and NJ combined.
One of the largest increases in gun violence in the US is in Chicago - a city with very strict gun laws.
As thunder follows the lightning, as darkness follows the sunset, the day after Democrats fail once again to find President Trump guilty of anything in their Impeachment Show Trial, President Biden is now calling for laws and reforms to crack down on law-abiding gun owners. Criminals, of course, will not obey such laws, only the law-abiding will let themselves be restricted by them.
Biden, of course, did not mention such problems with those his laws target, only trying to jerk the heart-strings (for the third year in a row) of people who lost loved ones at Douglas High School in Parkland, FL.
Most of his suggested "reforms" have been tried before, only to be ignored by the people who typically commit horrific acts such as the shootings at the Parkland high school and others. Despite their repeated failures to reduce the number of shootings and killings over the years, Biden nonetheless refers to them as "Commonsense Gun Reforms", as if making new laws has ever had an effect of the kind of people who shoot up schools. Inevitably, Democrats appear ready to accept them, paying little attention to their track record of ineffectiveness as well as the flat prohibitions against making such laws commanded in the Constitution.
Biden calls for 'commonsense gun law reforms' on anniversary of Parkland shooting
by John Bowden - 02/14/21 01:36 PM EST
President Biden called on Congress to pass "commonsense gun law reforms" on Sunday in a message marking the third anniversary of the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla.
"Today, as we mourn with the Parkland community, we mourn for all who have lost loved ones to gun violence," Biden said in a statement released by the White House.
In the statement, the president called for several specific provisions to be adopted into legislation by Congress, including an end to legal immunity for gun manufacturers, a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, and an expansion of federal background checks.
In 1994, the Democratic Party occupied the White House and held a majority in the Senate and in the House. The Assault Weapons Ban was passed and became law in September, although it ultimately had no real effect on the reduction of "gun violence" during the 10 years it stood.
Not long after, the Republican Party stampeded, with the "Republican Revolution" seeing the GOP take unified control of Congress for the first time since 1952; the GOP took 8 seats in the Senate and had a net gain of 54 seats in the House. There was also a net of 10 governorships and many state legislative chambers went Republican. And in 2000, the Republican Party took the White House.
Could lightning strike again? Perhaps. The country is far more polarized and divided than most Americans could have thought possible in the fall of 1994, and many on the right (including but not limited to Trump-supporting conservatives) are opposed to gun control laws beyond what already exists. The Trump base, which I belong to, is largely convinced there was fraud this past November and they are not going to forget it, nor are they going to forget the sham impeachment trial which resulted in an acquittal.
If H.R. 127 passes, one could very well see a red avalanche dwarfing - or at least rivaling - the stampede of 1994.
It's almost a "good" thing when Democrats get complete control. They cannot control themselves, and start trying to enact tons of completely nutty uberliberal laws. They seem to have gotten off to a fast start, doing that in their first month in office in 2021. This usually gets them tossed out on their keisters, as happened in 1994 as you pointed out.
Now sure enough, Biden is calling for re-enactment of failed "gun control" laws, as though crime was the gun's fault, and punishing only the people who obey his laws.
The first thing they need to do is end the special protection the gun makers have under the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA). That law protects firearms manufacturers and dealers from being held liable when crimes have been committed with their products.
That also goes for car makers, knives, baseball bats, social medias, etc ?
It's almost a "good" thing when Democrats get complete control. They cannot control themselves, and start trying to enact tons of completely nutty uberliberal laws. They seem to have gotten off to a fast start, doing that in their first month in office in 2021. This usually gets them tossed out on their keisters, as happened in 1994 as you pointed out.
Now sure enough, Biden is calling for re-enactment of failed "gun control" laws, as though crime was the gun's fault, and punishing only the people who obey his laws.
Im sorry to say, but if these conservatives that believed Biden won due to fraud...if they were not willing to stand up and defend the integrity of the highest political office in the land...I dont think there is ANYTHING they would take up arms for and fight against!!
FEAR OF GUNS
The CC (concerned citizen) says:
“ I would say many people are not afraid of guns, but of the people carrying the guns.”
- Why would anyone be afraid of law abiding people carrying the guns?
I think the problem is that guns FRIGHTEN you, and you think that by disarming, that suddenly you will be safer. A disarmed predator is not suddenly rendered harmless, especially if the predator is ruthless, stronger, or more clever so as to overpower the victim.
CC: “ Guns are not toys, but it is my impression many believe they are, and can be carried by any one.”
- I know of no one who thinks a gun is a toy. And it is a blessing for Americans to be able to own and carry them. History is full of reports of people who were disarmed and violated by predators.
CC: “I think it is better to restrict the use of most deadly ones to people who have expert training on them, like the militia.”
- You should be aware that the militia, by law, are ALL MALE CITIZENS, 17-45.
Title 10 USC Sec. 311. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of ALL able-bodied MALES at least 17 years of age and, ... under 45 years of age who are ... CITIZENS of the United States...
BTW - military may be trained, but not all trainees are “experts” in the use of those firearms. In fact, firearms negated the requirement for arduous training one needed by other “assault weapons” (longbows, swords, etc).
CC: “ I would not feel safe around any other person carrying one of those.”
-A carried gun is not the danger. It’s the predator with a gun aimed at his victim that is the danger.
Note the difference. In fact, you are more safe among people carrying guns. If a predator whipped out a gun and started shooting, it would be the nearby armed civilians who would be most capable of stopping the predator.
CC: “ So if "gun violence" is not the fault of the innocent gun, but of the predator, why not take the gun out of the sentence, and at least reduce the probability that predators and unstable people get their hands on them?”
-PREDATORS, by definition, prey on others. They may or may not be armed. If a strong but unarmed man overpowers and rapes a weak woman, are you saying that SHE should be banned from carrying an instrument of “gun violence” because she’s not a MILITIAMAN, trained to be an “expert”?
Just FYI - Australia is about the size of the US with population of about 2x Pennsylvania or a little over that of Florida. Queensland has about the population of South Carolina with an area bigger than TX, CA, MT, NM & SC combined. New South Wales has about the Population of Washington state in an area about the size of WA, FL, NY, IL, VA, MA and NJ combined.
One of the largest increases in gun violence in the US is in Chicago - a city with very strict gun laws.
Don't tell me. Tell the poster who brought them into the discussion.
Hmm, not a single gun-control advocate has appeared here to defend the idea of re-enacting "gun control" laws that have already been tried and failed. Or even to claim that's not what Biden is calling for.
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