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View Poll Results: Is Apple Hypocritical on Social Justice
Yes obviously 31 86.11%
Yes a little bit 2 5.56%
Unsure 2 5.56%
Not really, maybe a tad 0 0%
Not at all 1 2.78%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-16-2021, 04:49 AM
 
Location: Michigan, Maryland-born
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Apple has committed $100 million to social justice.

Apple has ads that promote social justice.

Apple also makes their physical components in Chinese sweatshops where there are suicide nets, the workers live on site so they can be woken up in the middle of the night to work for cheap labor while being one of the most profitable companies in America.

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...device-extract


Is it hypocritical to preach social justice at home while workers making your product are committing suicide, because you allow them to be treated so poorly? Do not the Chinese workers assembling these products have as much value as the Americans that Apple preaches equity and social justice too?

How these workers are treated in China would not be tolerated if it were within our borders. What makes it okay in one location, but not okay in another?
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Old 02-16-2021, 04:54 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Yes. Pure virtue signalling to target consumers.

LOL that one was easy.

Might even get some of our left of center people to agree with some of our right of center people.
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Old 02-16-2021, 04:59 AM
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OP are you saying that you and yours will never purchase Apple products over your perceived practices on their manufacturing? Can you tell me what Cell Phone is made in our country? As for the donation anything Apple does is pure marketing in one form or another that's their bottom line.
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Old 02-16-2021, 05:00 AM
 
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Yes, the Left has always been about hypocrisy and phony superficial gestures to fool people into thinking their cause is wholesome and just.
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Old 02-16-2021, 05:04 AM
 
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OP are you saying that you and yours will never purchase Apple products over your perceived practices on their manufacturing? Can you tell me what Cell Phone is made in our country? As for the donation anything Apple does is pure marketing in one form or another that's their bottom line.
So then you agree that Apple, a Leftist company, is hypocritical and using social justice as a way to make money?
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Old 02-16-2021, 05:08 AM
 
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Is it Apple's place or ours to change employment practices in China? The USA really does need to learn to m ind our own business.

WE love to shut down those alleged sweatshops. What we dont bother with, is where do those people go to work after they have lost their jobs?

Maybe just maybe, the USA needs to focus on our own problems for a change.
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Old 02-16-2021, 05:12 AM
 
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Is it Apple's place or ours to change employment practices in China? The USA really does need to learn to m ind our own business.

WE love to shut down those alleged sweatshops. What we dont bother with, is where do those people go to work after they have lost their jobs?

Maybe just maybe, the USA needs to focus on our own problems for a change.
What are you talking about? These companies talk a good game of being all about human rights, helping this or that cause but like this shows, it is all just bogus.
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Old 02-16-2021, 05:14 AM
 
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What are you talking about? These companies talk a good game of being all about human rights, helping this or that cause but like this shows, it is all just bogus.
Im talking about who gives a damn and that it is none of our business. You ever notice the USA has a nasty habit of butting into other peoples business and making things far worse?
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Old 02-16-2021, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Michigan, Maryland-born
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Is it Apple's place or ours to change employment practices in China? The USA really does need to learn to m ind our own business.

WE love to shut down those alleged sweatshops. What we dont bother with, is where do those people go to work after they have lost their jobs?

Maybe just maybe, the USA needs to focus on our own problems for a change.
I am not saying the US government should have the right to make laws inside of China.

I am saying....

Apple chose to move their manufacturing to China knowing what happens in the sweatshops so they can make some of the largest profit margins of large companies on earth. Apple chooses to do business with these sweatshops knowing what continues to happen. Apple does not choose to work out a deal with FoxCon and other sweatshops to give more money or rights to workers. Apple is complicit in the lack of equity and the lack of social justice in these sweatshops.

Then Apple chooses to preach to us about equity and social justice - while being a major violator of it abroad.

Is that not severely hypocritical?




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OP are you saying that you and yours will never purchase Apple products over your perceived practices on their manufacturing? Can you tell me what Cell Phone is made in our country? As for the donation anything Apple does is pure marketing in one form or another that's their bottom line.
I am clearly saying that Apple is hypocritical. We allow them to be hypocritical by not calling them out and holding them and others to task. For what it is worth I don't think I have ever owned an apple product, but I realize that most companies want to exploit Asian workers.
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Old 02-16-2021, 05:16 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Im talking about who gives a damn and that it is none of our business. You ever notice the USA has a nasty habit of butting into other peoples business and making things far worse?
Agree with your latter sentence but I believe the OP is being critical of Apple for using said Chinese sweat shops.
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