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Old 02-17-2021, 11:53 AM
 
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Texas Engineers --- didn't calculate for the anomalies --- all the college in the world will not help people in the common sense area; either you got it, or you don't.
Winterizing costs money. Cutting corners looks good on the next quarterly report, and with just a bit of luck you'll have moved on when the next ice storm hits.
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Old 02-17-2021, 11:54 AM
 
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That's fine but where do you stop? You can build for a 10,000 year flood and it might happen but what are the odds? Instead the common build is for a 100 year event because the likelihood of that happening is greater.

The same way with weather. This is probably a once in 50 years, or greater, event (although, just like 100 year floods, it could happen again next year). Do you build for the expectation that it happens every year, with the associated higher costs, or build for what's the most common?
Rolling blackouts due to cold weather in 1989, 2011 and now. Incidentally, the nuclear plants are going offline now.
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Old 02-17-2021, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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When was the last time temperatures in inland Texas fell this low? (My guess would be the winter of 1981-82).

At some point, all decisions made in dealing with the public, in the public and private sector alike, boil down to a matter of calculated risk; in other words -- a crapshoot.

Of course, it's much easier to deal with this if you have 20/20 hindsight.

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Old 02-17-2021, 11:56 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Gotta love how the failed Abbot went on Faux News and blamed a congresswoman from New York on all of his current problems.

I'm finding that Republicans just do not ever take personal responsibility for their own problems.
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Old 02-17-2021, 11:58 AM
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Location: North Pacific
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Texas Engineers --- didn't calculate for the anomalies --- all the college in the world will not help people in the common sense area; either you got it, or you don't.
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Winterizing costs money. Cutting corners looks good on the next quarterly report, and with just a bit of luck you'll have moved on when the next ice storm hits.
That's what I was thinking --- too, as well as, them being a little short on common sense. One can only hope some of those Engineers (presently employed) are without power in their homes too --- it's the only way anything gets fixed, is when the problem hits home.
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Old 02-17-2021, 11:59 AM
 
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Perhaps Texas shouldn’t have been switching to wind and solar which is completely shut down in this winter storm. Coal, natural gas, and nuclear are more reliable in such weather conditions.
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Old 02-17-2021, 12:00 PM
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When was the last time temperatures in inland Texas fell this low? (My guess would be the winter of 1981-82).
1989 --- we were in it. Drove to Texas for Christmas from Colorado Springs; looking forward to warmer temps, turned out, not.
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Old 02-17-2021, 12:08 PM
 
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When was the last time temperatures in inland Texas fell this low? (My guess would be the winter of 1981-82).
1989, they didn't learn anything regarding winterizing power plants either, they should figure it out.
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Old 02-17-2021, 12:09 PM
 
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Perhaps Texas shouldn’t have been switching to wind and solar which is completely shut down in this winter storm. Coal, natural gas, and nuclear are more reliable in such weather conditions.
No, a majority of the natural gas plants and nuclear unit went offline, in far greater percentage terms compared to wind farms that weren't winterized either. There will be investigations and studies into this event for quite a long time regarding the multiple failures at nearly every level at the grid.
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Old 02-17-2021, 12:10 PM
 
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That's what I was thinking --- too, as well as, them being a little short on common sense. One can only hope some of those Engineers (presently employed) are without power in their homes too --- it's the only way anything gets fixed, is when the problem hits home.
My guess is the engineers didn't do the corner-cutting exercise - that sort of stuff tends to be management somewhere.
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