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Old 02-17-2021, 12:10 PM
 
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Why are people using a huge unusual winter storm as some tool in politics? So if a tornado blows your house over, you are going to blame a politician or political party now?

You really can't make this stuff up.
Maybe because politicization is what caused them to privatize the grid. Don't want no stinkin' government in charge.
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Old 02-17-2021, 12:11 PM
 
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Perhaps Texas shouldn’t have been switching to wind and solar which is completely shut down in this winter storm. Coal, natural gas, and nuclear are more reliable in such weather conditions.
It is amazing how you guys will unflinchingly post stuff that is 100% contradicted by reality.
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Old 02-17-2021, 12:11 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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That's what I was thinking --- too, as well as, them being a little short on common sense. One can only hope some of those Engineers (presently employed) are without power in their homes too --- it's the only way anything gets fixed, is when the problem hits home.
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My guess is the engineers didn't do the corner-cutting exercise - that sort of stuff tends to be management somewhere.
That's why they get paid the big bucks ---
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Old 02-17-2021, 12:32 PM
 
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I am not really seeing what the big deal is.

This event is rare, very rare, so it would make sense to have issues occur for when a rare event like this happens. It also does not make sense to dump billions of dollars into preparing for such a rare event.

This is unlike California wildfires, an event that happens every single year. This is unlike heavy snow in Maine, an event that happens every single year.

I live in Miami, if something like this storm hit Miami, we would all be without power, and it would be a hilarious disaster seeing how people would respond. I also do not want Miami dumping billions of dollars "just in case" we get an ice storm. If we do get an ice storm, then we will just get through the once in a lifetime, if not once in a 1000 year, event, without wasting money and trying to prepare for every scenario a person can think of, no matter how remote of a possibility it is.

Come on, lost power for a few days, really this weak of people out there?
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Old 02-17-2021, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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I am not really seeing what the big deal is.

This event is rare, very rare, so it would make sense to have issues occur for when a rare event like this happens. It also does not make sense to dump billions of dollars into preparing for such a rare event.

This is unlike California wildfires, an event that happens every single year. This is unlike heavy snow in Maine, an event that happens every single year.

I live in Miami, if something like this storm hit Miami, we would all be without power, and it would be a hilarious disaster seeing how people would respond. I also do not want Miami dumping billions of dollars "just in case" we get an ice storm. If we do get an ice storm, then we will just get through the once in a lifetime, if not once in a 1000 year, event, without wasting money and trying to prepare for every scenario a person can think of, no matter how remote of a possibility it is.

Come on, lost power for a few days, really this weak of people out there?
No, it is not a rare event in Texas. These events happen Every 20-30 years, not once every 50-100 years in Miami. The issue is deregulated grid, lack of winterizing power plants, and other related failures that ERCOT will be investigating.
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Old 02-17-2021, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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LOL. Texans don’t do much winterizing of anything.
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Old 02-17-2021, 12:36 PM
 
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My guess is the engineers didn't do the corner-cutting exercise - that sort of stuff tends to be management somewhere.

Very likely. Many engineers don't understand the concept of "better is the enemy of good enough" and will come up with a Ferrari when the customer asked for a Civic. Creating a support infrastructure for a 100 year event would most likely be prohibitively expensive. It's analogous to a city in South Florida buying and maintaining a fleet of snow plows.
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Old 02-17-2021, 12:39 PM
 
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No, it is not a rare event in Texas. These events happen Every 20-30 years, not once every 50-100 years in Miami.

Apparently, not everyone in Texas agrees with you.
https://www.valleycentral.com/news/t...ricane-harvey/


But, being a Democrat from New Hampshire, I'm sure you know better than they do.
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Old 02-17-2021, 12:50 PM
 
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Very likely. Many engineers don't understand the concept of "better is the enemy of good enough" and will come up with a Ferrari when the customer asked for a Civic. Creating a support infrastructure for a 100 year event would most likely be prohibitively expensive. It's analogous to a city in South Florida buying and maintaining a fleet of snow plows.
There were dress rehearsals in 1989 and 2011. What's the estimated cost of the current debacle? But skipping on preparedness saves money now, while building to higher standards never even becomes evident. No one notices the power working.
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Old 02-17-2021, 12:59 PM
 
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So Abbott goes on the local tv station talking about how he has been on numerous calls with natural gas providers about the frozen gas in the peipelines and how it is going to create a problem......

and then magically goes on Hannity and blames the New Green Deal -- that isn't even a thing yet.

LOLOL


This is the age of information with eveyrone fact checked on the fact check. Why would he be such an idiot?
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