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Old 02-18-2021, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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A decade ago, federal regulators warned Texas that its power plants couldn’t be counted on to reliably churn out electricity in bitterly cold conditions https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/...?sref=JAemJnte via
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This is all that really matters. The state chose to ignore those warnings.
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Old 02-18-2021, 01:33 PM
 
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Thank Barack Obama for closing thermal plants in Texas that powered energy production before winters that the state historically gets.
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Old 02-18-2021, 01:36 PM
 
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Is there any particular reason the this was not brought up during Trumps term if it was truly the cause of the problem. His Energy Secretary was Texas Governor for 15 years so should have surely seen the problem...

It's also worth noting that the grid in Puerto Rico failing 4 years ago should have made the Texans do at least a quick analysis of their own grid/production/infrastructure.
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Old 02-18-2021, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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According to Rick Perry, Texans wanted to keep their energy independence and thus Texas did not exactly FERC guidelines. That's OK, I respect that and in some ways their independence is good. However, OP, do not blame other people for a decision that Texans made and do not blame God or the weather for something that is beyond anyone's reasonable control. When temperatures get to 32F, water freezes and there isn't much anyone can be do except to spend money to prevent prevent freezing and/or minimize the impact.
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Old 02-18-2021, 02:34 PM
 
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No there are no more modern thermal plants. Three of them upgraded their scrubbers for about $50 million each and Obama shut them down anyway.

Dallas doesn't get -1° F temperatures every year. Several inches of snow doesn't repeatedly blanket South Texas every year with temperatures in the low teens.

You'll pay for it with increased travel costs, food prices, and heating oil bills.
Coal is less than 20% of the electricity produced.

Whining about coal plants closing has absolutely nothing to do with the issues they’re having.

The core issue is electricity production got cut and demand spiked. Output across the board went down. Workers weren’t going to work, supplies weren’t getting delivered etc.

Texas electricity producers were warned about the possibility of this happening a decade ago. Nobody made changes to protect against it. It’s costly... but still... government should’ve made it mandatory. All the trashed houses are going to be expensive.

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TRANSLATION: I can't refute what you said, so I'll ignore it and call you names instead.
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Is there any particular reason the this was not brought up during Trumps term if it was truly the cause of the problem. His Energy Secretary was Texas Governor for 15 years so should have surely seen the problem...

It's also worth noting that the grid in Puerto Rico failing 4 years ago should have made the Texans do at least a quick analysis of their own grid/production/infrastructure.
Oh shush. It’s Obama’s fault.
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Old 02-18-2021, 02:50 PM
 
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That's when Obama closed the state's thermal plants that the article addresses.

History much?
Your link just goes to a Twitter feed.

There was this, though:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...?sref=JAemJnte

TLDR: After a cold snap in 2011, Federal authorities suggested winterizing Texas's plants in case of a reoccurrence. Texas, being Texas, went into "You're not the boss of me!" mode and - didn't.

Surprise, surprise, next time it got cold, the natural gas plants froze - again. And those straight-talkin', straight-shootin' Texas Republicans did what they do best: Placed the responsibility on the Green New Deal, or wind turbines, or Barack Obama or - well, pretty much on anyone not them.
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Old 02-18-2021, 02:53 PM
 
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Y'all are grasping at straws now.
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Old 02-18-2021, 03:00 PM
 
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That's when Obama closed the state's thermal plants that the article addresses.

History much?
But....Donny Two Times was going to bring all those jobs back and he was going to re-energize the entire coal industry. I mean, if we're talking failures.....what happened THERE?
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