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Old 02-19-2021, 09:50 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by DRob4JC View Post
Leaving the party does not imply going to Democrats.

Democrats are unelectable for the most part right now.

Everyone should be independent as far as I'm concerned.
The political party system should be dismantled.
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Old 02-19-2021, 09:53 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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As I mentioned in my last post, Trump would be an idiot to start a 3rd party, as it would guarantee a (D) landslide in 2024.
He can however do what Bernie and the "Justice Democrats" have done. That is run as a Democrat, even though most are socialists/communists.

So if Trump started a movement, say the Patriot Republicans, and tried to primary RINO House and Senate (R's), that could work. Trump would naturally have to run as a (R) again on the presidential level, as running 3rd party would be a colossal mistake.




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Old 02-19-2021, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Probably more Dems that changed to Republican than these numbers.

#WalkAway

...No?



The data is clear. American's are leaving the Republican party. Everyone has had enough of the billionaire good old boys club.


The GOP is shrinking in all the wrong spots too. AZ, NC, PA, GA. Serves them right.
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Old 02-19-2021, 10:15 AM
 
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...No?



The data is clear. American's are leaving the Republican party. Everyone has had enough of the billionaire good old boys club.


The GOP is shrinking in all the wrong spots too. AZ, NC, PA, GA. Serves them right.
Dems have no room to talk.
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Old 02-19-2021, 10:19 AM
 
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Since 2018, comparably small shares of registered voters in both parties have changed parties. About one-in-ten voters (9%) who affiliated with the Republican Party or leaned Republican in September 2018 now identify as Democrats or lean Democratic. An identical share of voters (9%) who two years ago identified as Democrats or leaned Democratic now align with the GOP.

A link to one of the Left's favorite sources;
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics...al-divergence/
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Old 02-19-2021, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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Just wait. People may be fed up with the Republicans now but after four years of the destructive abysmal Biden administration they'll be back. There will be no other choice than to send creepy sleepy Joe back to the basement.
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Old 02-19-2021, 10:25 AM
 
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The exodus has nothing to do with the Capitol. Anyone who saw President Trump's speech knows he didn't incite anything. He said everybody should be peaceful and then disavowed the violence. It is also a fact that some of the rioters were left-wing antifa types. It has more to do with the weak, spineless GOP. We want fighters not cowards. I, myself, am considering switching from Republican to unaffiliated, but I would never vote for a Democrat.



Thanks for the great laughs this morning.
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Old 02-19-2021, 11:19 AM
 
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The exodus has nothing to do with the Capitol. Anyone who saw President Trump's speech knows he didn't incite anything. He said everybody should be peaceful and then disavowed the violence. It is also a fact that some of the rioters were left-wing antifa types. It has more to do with the weak, spineless GOP. We want fighters not cowards. I, myself, am considering switching from Republican to unaffiliated, but I would never vote for a Democrat.
He disavowed the violence?? What part of 'We love you' communicated how much he disapproved of them? Just wondering
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Old 02-19-2021, 11:21 AM
 
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Democrats are unelectable for the most part right now.
Really? How do you suppose they hold the presidency, senate and house then? It's a puzzle, isn't it?
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Old 02-19-2021, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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I'm not aware that he ever used that word. Yes, we know that he was disappointed and said that Pence "didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution". That is an arguable assertion....and not all that surprising coming from a man who has shown us courage unseen before in our lifetimes to go against the grain of the political establishment.

"Didn’t have the courage" aligns Pence with just about every other politician in Washington. Using the word coward is a big step farther than that.

If you have a link to back up that specific reference, please share.

I'll stand 'slightly' corrected. The quote from Trump was "“Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution . . . USA demands the truth!”

To my way of thinking, and you may not agree, this is the same thing as calling him a coward. See cowad below. lacking courage. I don't see alot of daylight there.

coward
[ˈkou(ə)rd]
NOUN
a person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things.
synonyms:
weakling · milksop · namby-pamby · mouse · chicken · scaredy-cat · fraidy-cat · [more]
ADJECTIVE
literary
excessively afraid of danger or pain.
heraldry
(of an animal) depicted with the tail between the hind legs.

courage
[ˈkərij]
NOUN
the ability to do something that frightens one.
"she called on all her courage to face the ordeal"
strength in the face of pain or grief.
"he fought his illness with great courage"
synonyms:
bravery · braveness · courageousness · pluck · pluckiness · valor · fearlessness · intrepidity · intrepidness · nerve · daring · audacity · boldness · dauntlessness · [more]
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