Does anyone else find the "global warming" lie to be a slap in the face? (enemy, soldiers)

[beb0p]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

How do some people not get that earth's climate has been changing for all of its 4.5 billion years? It's constantly in a natural state of flux. To presume otherwise and insist that any change to earth's climate is anthropogenic in origin is utterly absurd, not to mention there's no scientific proof of that, whatsoever. The ACCers (Anthropogenic Climate Change) have proffered a certain theory, but it's all just conjecture.

Right-wingers: Climate change is a hoax!!

Also right-wingers: The climate is always changing.




Throughout history, lots of people died from climate change. Just like throughout history, lots of people die from infections. This is like saying Penicillin is a hoax and we should just let infection kill us like our ancestors because that's just how things have always been.

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[Timonium]

The experts said an ice age was coming in the 70s, lol

[beb0p]

Originally Posted by Timonium

The experts said an ice age was coming in the 70s, lol

The scientists from the 70s were worried about global warming.

The press was the one who pushed the ice age story.

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[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by beb0p

Right-wingers: Climate change is a hoax!!

Also right-wingers: The climate is always changing.

I can see you don't understand the issue, so I'll explain it, again.

Earth's climate has been continuously changing for all of its 4.5 billion years. It's always in a natural state of flux.

Anthropogenic* Climate Change is a theory that is based on conjecture, only. There is no scientific proof that humans are the cause instead of the other natural factors that have impacted the earth's climate for 4.5 billion years.

* Anthropogenic: caused by human activity

[The Dark Enlightenment]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

How do some people not get that earth's climate has been changing for all of its 4.5 billion years? It's constantly in a natural state of flux.

Fortunately for us, the climate has been relatively stable for the past 10,000 year, allowing us to build human civilization.

To presume otherwise and insist that any change to earth's climate is anthropogenic in origin is utterly absurd,

Almost nobody does this. You're attacking a strawman.

The ACCers (Anthropogenic Climate Change) have proffered a certain theory, but it's all just conjecture.

We are running a giant chemistry experiment to see what happens when you suddenly double the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. And yes, the ultimate result of this radical change remains unclear.

[Rocko20]

Originally Posted by Timonium

It's a fact liberals have pivoted from Global warming to climate change

This is true as well. The "global warming" wiki page now transfers you to "climate change."

Turns out Al Gore was wrong when he said the world would be flooded by now.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

To presume otherwise and insist that any change to earth's climate is anthropogenic in origin is utterly absurd

Originally Posted by The Dark Enlightenment

Almost nobody does this.

Are you sure about that? What percentage do the ACCers attribute to natural causes, and what percentage to human activity? Remembering all the while that there are natural sources of CO2 emissions, for example, thermal vents on the ocean floor and volcanoes.

[beb0p]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

I can see you don't understand the issue, so I'll explain it, again.

Earth's climate has been continuously changing for all of its 4.5 billion years. It's always in a natural state of flux.

Anthropogenic* Climate Change is a theory that is based on conjecture, only. There is no scientific proof that humans are the cause instead of the other natural factors that have impacted the earth's climate for 4.5 billion years.

* Anthropogenic: caused by human activity

This whole idea of Anthropogenic is stupid and pointless.

Who cares what causes it. If a big tree falls over and crushes your house's roof, are you going to say, "Oh, it's not a man-made disaster. I am just going to ignore it and not care that rain is now dropping directly into my kitchen because tree falling over is a natural thing."


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[dozerbear]

Originally Posted by jcp123

Meh. It snows here maybe every other year. Single digits, AFAIK are a first since records were kept here. So no, it’s not simply a “because it’s winter” thing.

From the Texas State Climatologist:

Feb. 1895: Freeze/Snow. Coastal Texas. What is probably the greatest heavy-snow anomally in the climatic history of the U.S. resulted from a snowstorm along the Texas coast on the 14th–15th. Houston; Orange; Stafford, Fort Bend County; and Columbus, Colorado County, each reported a snowfall of 20 inches. Galveston had a snowfall of 15.4 inches. Snow fell as far south as the Lower Rio Grande Valley, where Brownsville received 5 inches. The Lower Valley had lows of 22°F the 14th through the 17th, destroying the vegetable crops.

Feb. 11–13, 1899: Freeze. A disastrous cold wave throughout the state. Newspapers described it as the worst freeze ever known in the state. Brownsville’s temperature reach 16°F on the 12th and remained below freezing through the 13th. Much destruction of vegetable crops.

Jan. 10–12, 1918: Blizzard. This was the most severe since that of February, 1899; it was accompanied by zero degree temperature in North Texas and temperatures from 7° to 12° below freezing along the lower coast.

Jan.–Feb. 1951: Freeze. On Jan. 31.–Feb. 3 and again on Feb. 13–17, cold waves swept over the entire state, bringing snow and sleet. Heavy damage was done in the Lower Rio Grande Valley to truck and citrus crops, notably in the earlier of these northers. During the norther of Jan. 31–Feb. 3, the temperature went to –19°F in Dalhart.

Feb. 1–5, 1956: Blizzard. High Plains. A major blizzard moved into the Panhandle and South Plains on Feb. 1. Snow and high winds continued through Feb. 5. Snowfall was the heaviest on record in Texas. Twenty deaths were attributed to the blizzard.

Jan. 9–12, 1962: Freeze. A disastrous cold wave comparable to the cold waves of 1899 and 1951. Low temperatures ranged from -15°F in the Panhandle to 10°F at Rio Grande City. Agricultural losses were estimated at $50 million.

Feb. 20–22, 1971: Blizzard. Panhandle. Paralyzing blizzard, worst since March 22–25, 1957, storm transformed Panhandle into one vast snowfield as 6 to 26 inches of snow were whipped by 40 to 60 mph winds into drifts up to 12 feet high. At Follett, 3-day snowfall was 26 inches. Three persons killed; property and livestock losses were $3.1 million.

Dec. 30–31, 1978: Ice Storm. North Central Texas. Possibly the worst ice storm in 30 years hit Dallas County particularly hard. Damage estimates reached $14 million, and six deaths were storm-related.

December 1982: Heavy snow. El Paso recorded 18.2 inches of snow, the most in any month there.

Jan. 12–13, 1985: A record-breaking snowstorm struck West and South Central Texas with up to 15 inches of snow that fell at many locations between San Antonio and the Rio Grande. San Antonio recorded 13.2 inches of snow for Jan. 12 (the greatest in a day) and 13.5 inches for the two-day total. Eagle Pass reported 14.5 inches of snow.

Dec. 13 and 24-25, 2000: Ice/Snow. Two major winter storms blanketed Northeast Texas with up to six inches of ice from each storm. Eight inches of snow fell in the Panhandle, while areas in North Texas received 12 inches. Thousands of motorists were stranded on Interstate 20 and had to be rescued by the National Guard; 235,000 people lost electric service from the first storm alone. Roads were treacherous, driving was halted in several counties, and the total cost of damages from both storms reached more than $156 million.

Feb. 24–26, 2003: Snow/Ice. North Central Texas. A severe cold front brought freezing rain, sleet and snow to the North Central Texas. Snow accumulations were as high as 5 inches resulting in $15 million in damages. Most schools and businesses were closed for this period.

Dec. 24–26, 2004: Snow. Coastal Texas. Large portions of Southeast and South Texas saw their first white Christmas in recorded history. A cold front past over the state a few days prior to Christmas Eve dropping temperatures below freezing. Another cold front brought snow, and it accumulated Christmas Eve night and into Christmas day. Galveston and Houston recorded 4 inches of snow, while areas even further south, such as Victoria, had 12 inches. Brownsville recorded 1.5 inches of snow.

https://climatexas.tamu.edu/products...ies/index.html

The weather you are having certainly isn't normal, but it's nothing that hasn't happened a number of times before.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by beb0p

This whole idea of Anthropogenic is stupid and pointless.

Who cares what causes it. If a big tree falls over and crushes your house's roof, are you going to say, "Oh, it's not a man-made disaster. I am just going to ignore it and not care that rain is now dropping directly into my kitchen because tree falling over is a natural thing."


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Then don't ban/control/manipulate/restrict human activity in an impotent bid to "stop" climate change when we all know such continual change is earth's natural state, as it has been for 4.5 billion years.