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Old 02-20-2021, 08:22 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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4) Blacks in America have it good nowadays because they got hauled over here to be slaves.
I assume that if you ask blacks in the US today if they would rather be living in Africa right now, nearly all of them would say no. Am I wrong?
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Old 02-20-2021, 10:10 AM
 
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The Barbary-Pirates loved enslaving Europeans. Heck, it must have dawned on humans very early-on, owning another human is a great deal. Maybe that is why slavery was used very early-on and it was widespread.

Oh yeah, slavery is still in use today.
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Old 02-20-2021, 11:56 AM
 
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You missed the very import part:

African kings and chiefs SOLD their own Africans and the Africans they conquered to Europeans. Without Africa's cooperation and collaboration, slavery doesn't become as big as it is.

Why do liberals continually skip this crucial part of slavery? Do you really think Africa wanted the 300K slaves they sent to America? No. That's why we were sold.

There should never have been 42 million blacks in America today, it's pure chance we landed here. Canada barely has 3% of a black population while America has 13%.

I will not be sorry that I was born in America instead of Africa, you would have to be insane to think that we blacks aren't lucky to be here.
I skipped it because Thomas Sowell didn't mention it in the video. But he did mention the bolded part of your post.

However being "lucky to be here" is kind of an interesting way to put it within the context of the last 400 years of black history in America. Yes, you are lucky to be here and are lucky that the people that came before you fought hard for your civil rights to be intact.
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Old 02-20-2021, 12:14 PM
 
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In reality,
most of today's problem come from Jim Crow laws
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Old 02-20-2021, 01:27 PM
 
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You missed the very import part:

African kings and chiefs SOLD their own Africans and the Africans they conquered to Europeans. Without Africa's cooperation and collaboration, slavery doesn't become as big as it is.

Why do liberals continually skip this crucial part of slavery? Do you really think Africa wanted the 300K slaves they sent to America? No. That's why we were sold.

There should never have been 42 million blacks in America today, it's pure chance we landed here. Canada barely has 3% of a black population while America has 13%.

I will not be sorry that I was born in America instead of Africa, you would have to be insane to think that we blacks aren't lucky to be here.
Exactly. Blacks could have ended slavery long before whites did. They didn’t. They chose to make money off their own instead. Whites ended up ending slavery, something the left never gives them credit for.
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Old 02-20-2021, 01:29 PM
 
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Black slaves have existed in Eurasia going back to the antiquity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ocean_slave_trade

I am sure for caucasian races, blacks slaves were preferred because you can always tell who is who, and who is not due to skin color.

North Africa Barbary kingdoms, and the Ottoman Empire also had black slaves.
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Old 02-20-2021, 02:15 PM
 
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This is like saying during World War II White people put other White people in gas ovens and exterminated 6 million White people so what's the big deal. They did this to their own kind.

One could argue that a German and a Jew share more DNA than two Africans from different "countries" on the "continent" of Africa.
No, it isn't.

Americans are taught to think of slavery as a strict white-against-black affair, and while within the context of U.S. history it is true that blacks were slaves, they ended up here because they were captured and trafficked by fellow black Africans.

Black Africans conquered each other after winning battles for hundreds if not thousands of years. They enslaved each other at will; chattel slavery continued in Africa way past the death of the last slave in the U.S. and way past the death of the last surviving veteran of the War Between The States. Chattel slavery survived in Africa into the late 20th Century and still exists in Africa today.

White Europeans barely ventured beyond the coastal areas of Africa. They were unaccustomed to the weather and the terrain; there were beasts and bugs they weren't used to fighting off/killing, and they would not have survived long had they gone deep into Africa with the technology of their day. They negotiated with Africans who had power; the latter sold them a given number of slaves which the former paid an agreed-upon price.

This does not mean blacks didn't suffer in the U.S. during slavery and even beyond it. It does mean historical knowledge is necessary to gain a proper understanding of the historical context, and this knowledge is sorely absent from the heads of way too many Americans in 2021. Add to this the madness of social justice and cultural Marxism, which dictate that only white people can be racist, and few are inquisitive enough to challenge the conventional belief of our time that nonwhites are only victims.
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Old 02-20-2021, 02:39 PM
 
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No, it isn't.

Americans are taught to think of slavery as a strict white-against-black affair, and while within the context of U.S. history it is true that blacks were slaves, they ended up here because they were captured and trafficked by fellow black Africans.

Black Africans conquered each other after winning battles for hundreds if not thousands of years. They enslaved each other at will; chattel slavery continued in Africa way past the death of the last slave in the U.S. and way past the death of the last surviving veteran of the War Between The States. Chattel slavery survived in Africa into the late 20th Century and still exists in Africa today.

White Europeans barely ventured beyond the coastal areas of Africa. They were unaccustomed to the weather and the terrain; there were beasts and bugs they weren't used to fighting off/killing, and they would not have survived long had they gone deep into Africa with the technology of their day. They negotiated with Africans who had power; the latter sold them a given number of slaves which the former paid an agreed-upon price.

This does not mean blacks didn't suffer in the U.S. during slavery and even beyond it. It does mean historical knowledge is necessary to gain a proper understanding of the historical context, and this knowledge is sorely absent from the heads of way too many Americans in 2021. Add to this the madness of social justice and cultural Marxism, which dictate that only white people can be racist, and few are inquisitive enough to challenge the conventional belief of our time that nonwhites are only victims.
That is because of American-centric views. We often don't talk about the other countries, just America.
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Old 02-20-2021, 02:59 PM
 
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Looks like no one is interested in the truth.
It is common knowledge. Did you read the Robinson Crusoe? Robinson had been a slave and he was white. Only leftist dolts believe that slavery is only whites enslaving blacks
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Old 02-20-2021, 03:06 PM
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No, it isn't.

Americans are taught to think of slavery as a strict white-against-black affair, and while within the context of U.S. history it is true that blacks were slaves, they ended up here because they were captured and trafficked by fellow black Africans.

Black Africans conquered each other after winning battles for hundreds if not thousands of years. They enslaved each other at will; chattel slavery continued in Africa way past the death of the last slave in the U.S. and way past the death of the last surviving veteran of the War Between The States. Chattel slavery survived in Africa into the late 20th Century and still exists in Africa today.

White Europeans barely ventured beyond the coastal areas of Africa. They were unaccustomed to the weather and the terrain; there were beasts and bugs they weren't used to fighting off/killing, and they would not have survived long had they gone deep into Africa with the technology of their day. They negotiated with Africans who had power; the latter sold them a given number of slaves which the former paid an agreed-upon price.

This does not mean blacks didn't suffer in the U.S. during slavery and even beyond it. It does mean historical knowledge is necessary to gain a proper understanding of the historical context, and this knowledge is sorely absent from the heads of way too many Americans in 2021. Add to this the madness of social justice and cultural Marxism, which dictate that only white people can be racist, and few are inquisitive enough to challenge the conventional belief of our time that nonwhites are only victims.
Here we go again with the "each other" or Fellow blacks. They no more considered themselves each other than Americans and Afghanis consider themselves "each other." Afghanis are Caucasians yet white Americans don't think of themselves as one of them. Africans sold people who's languages, religions and customs they did not understand. The various African DNA in my blood is from African countries so far away from each other they were not selling their own.

Two Africans from the same tribe have more genetic diversity than any two randomly selected people in the world. So two Africans from different tribes could be worlds apart from each other. They have no affinity for each other based on skin color. Slavs have been enslaved as long as as Africans. Slavery goes back to the Ancient Roman Empire. Had it not been for the Trade winds Europeans would have picked another people to enslave.

Slavery wasn't the problem anyway. It was Christianity. White people had to reconcile their Christianity with slaveholding. So they developed the doctrine of white supremacy and the church signed off on it. Segregation is proof that even after blacks were no longer enslaved white supremacy endured. There was no supremacy between Africans a slave could become a leader in the tribe that once enslaved him.
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