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Old 02-21-2021, 11:47 PM
 
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Ok. First my dad. Had to be at work by 8am and school ended at 3 pm. Spent next two hours tutoring at risk students. Camehome, by seven he was grading papers and preparing the next days lesson plan. That would take 3 to 4 hours. So basically that was 12 hour work days. When summer time came he worked a full time summer job to make ends meet. And this was a union job. So ********* on bashng teachers. My guess is you in no way stand up to my dad.

As far as me? I owned and sold a software firms and retired at 58. Financially far more sucessful then my dad but made far less impact on others lives.


I agree with you on some things, and disagree on others, but I think it's great that you had a great role model in your dad, understand his contribution, and obviously have great respect for him.

 
Old 02-22-2021, 08:09 AM
 
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IIRC, he's in one of the construction trades.
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You mean like home construction where they build a crappy house and when you sue them they claim bankruotcy and then pop up a year later as a new llc? That POS industry?
Yeah an unskilled position that anyone can do

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What's "despicable" about it?

Docs & cops & nurses & EMTs are working through the pandemic.

Not sitting at home, following "the science" and making fun of parents...

What's your profession?
Wait, but that's their job. it would be like if a teacher didn't want to work around kids, but that's their job that's what they signed up for well doctors cops and everyone else that's what they signed up for too
 
Old 02-22-2021, 08:21 AM
 
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its more the union that is the problem. there are a lot of bad teachers and a lot of good teachers and a lot in between.
 
Old 02-22-2021, 08:53 AM
 
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its more the union that is the problem. there are a lot of bad teachers and a lot of good teachers and a lot in between.
And that is the way it is in EVERY profession.
 
Old 02-22-2021, 10:06 AM
 
Location: HONOLULU
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What do you mean glorified bums? They're like office workers. They are paper work all the way. Not someone who would show some one work to do as an example. They are pretty much that person who practices following things by the book and nothing else. Theoretical any way. That is them.
 
Old 02-22-2021, 10:31 AM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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What do you mean glorified bums? They're like office workers. They are paper work all the way. Not someone who would show some one work to do as an example. They are pretty much that person who practices following things by the book and nothing else. Theoretical any way. That is them.
Based on what you wrote here, you have a legitimate reason to call your teachers, "glorified bums," especially your English teachers.
 
Old 02-22-2021, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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My business is open on every holiday - 13 hours per day (state regulations are what they are) & even during Covid. Apples & oranges.

Teachers get holiday pay? Extra bonus for working a holiday when the school is closed?
And that's a choice you made to stay open on every holiday. Schools are not open on holidays. I think how teachers are paid (xxx days of instruction, xx in service/prep days, x holidays) already has been explained to you pretty thoroughly. What are you not getting about how teachers are paid?

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What's "despicable" about it?

Docs & cops & nurses & EMTs are working through the pandemic.

Not sitting at home, following "the science" and making fun of parents
What's despicable is the misrepresentation in this thread of how teachers are conducting classes during the pandemic.

Teachers have been working through the pandemic all along, just as doctors and nurses and EMTs. Some teachers work remotely, some do not. If you think teachers working remotely are sitting at home doing nothing, you're sadly uninformed. If you think it's easy to teach kids remotely, you're sadly mistaken. If you think teachers haven't worked their butts off transforming their lesson plans to a remote platform, or transforming their classrooms for social distancing, you haven't been paying attention. If you think teachers don't stay up nights worrying about the kids in their classrooms, well ...
 
Old 02-22-2021, 11:02 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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Bums is a bit rough of a thing to say, but I get the frustration that the OP has and I think that a large percentage of teachers are decent and want to do the right thing. I think that the teachers unions have gotten too powerful, particularly here in CA.

Here they are literally holding the kids hostage at this point and everyone here is mad, right, left, dem, repub.

Something has got to give, these people are really really burning their good will with the average person. I find unions to be silly in today's day and age with all of the workplace laws. The unions were good 80 plus yrs ago, they served a purpose. Now they are nothing but political action groups that confiscate their member's money with little to no value for the teacher.
 
Old 02-22-2021, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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I believe that because most parents are lazy and can't even handle raising their own kids. They can work making babies but then when it comes to actually taking care of them that's a different story
This is a sad example of how classist some are. Do you think a family with two essential worker parents wants their kids in school because they’re too lazy to take care of them? What about lower-paid workers who have to be physically present at their jobs and can’t afford childcare, now that we’re a year into the school closures?

Your post is every bit as dismissive and illogical as calling teachers bums.
 
Old 02-22-2021, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Sunny So. Cal.
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Based on what you wrote here, you have a legitimate reason to call your teachers, "glorified bums," especially your English teachers.
I laughed. Lol
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