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Old 05-06-2021, 06:14 AM
 
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That was an increase of 33.4% over the prior quarter which was negative 35% due to the pandemic so not much of an accomplishment. Never broke 3% annual under Trump, remember when they passed the 2017 Tax cut and the economy was going to take off, Trump and Kudlow were claiming 4 or 5%.
I do indeed remember the claims that the trickle down tax cuts would boost economic growth to 4%, 5%, "even 6%."

Sadly, as it turns out, it's demand that drives an economy, not supply.

Who knew?
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Old 05-06-2021, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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It gets a bit trickier when you ask, what policy or policies of Biden will cause the growth. The answer is no policy. The projected growth is about the same as it would have been had Trump won. A huge part of the growth is the return of business from the pandemic drop. Continuing problems with the pandemic in Europe and Asia may be adding to the growth projections.

But you can seldom look at any one reason for an expansion or contraction. 2020 is one of those exceptions where the contraction was obviously a result of the lockdowns.

And remember that projections are just that. If Biden gets his capital gains tax and corporate taxes through and all the spending he wants, I'd shave 200 basis points, maybe more, off that projected growth.

I would expect that the stimulus had an impact as does the pending infrastructure spending looking ahead.

Trump got credit in 2017 for lower unemployment and a rising stock market that had been moving in that direction for 8 years when he took office, the GDP was never much above 2% even prior to the pandemic. But I do agree that coming out of the pandemic has an impact.
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Old 05-06-2021, 06:18 AM
 
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I would expect that the stimulus had an impact as does the pending infrastructure spending looking ahead.

Trump got credit in 2017 for lower unemployment and a rising stock market that had been moving in that direction for 8 years when he took office, the GDP was never much above 2% even prior to the pandemic. But I do agree that coming out of the pandemic has an impact.
Yup Trump took credit for cumulative impact of 7 years of job growth before he took office.....but if you remember, conservatives told us our economy was in a shambles. They refused to acknowledge the 7 years of recovery until they got a Republican in office.

Kudos to Trump -- he didn't screw up the recovery and it went 10 years before the pandemic crisis.

WOO HOO --- Trump didn't crash the moving train.
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Old 05-06-2021, 06:19 AM
 
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The Biden Boom Has Begun

From Jan 20th, here is that good morning:

The Lincoln Project????? Bwahahahahaha
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Old 05-06-2021, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Growth of what? The cost of things?
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Old 05-06-2021, 06:28 AM
 
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I look at it the same way. I think a President can't really be held responsible OR take credit until about a year into his or her term. So much is on autopilot.


And really, it's Congress that should be held responsible. But we all collectively seem hung up on blaming the President for tax cuts or increases or general economic conditions.
The president is nothing more than a figurehead used to shield Congress from backlash when they pass stupid legislation.
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Old 05-06-2021, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I told you the other day that CEO confidence was the highest in 17 years. Projections of GDP growth in 2021 and even into 2022 confirm the reason for that optimism. While it's early and these projections will certainly change, as of right now there is a lot of reason for optimism.

Unless, of course, you're a Biden-hating conservative.

U.S. growth expectations are going through the roof
Ha ha... it was Trump that brought the best economy in 60 years..Biden is a job killer .
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Old 05-06-2021, 08:32 AM
 
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It's so much fun watching republic party heads explode over the in-progress Biden boom.

Auto Sales Hit Highest Level Since 2005
Heads exploding? Yea, from laughing at you. OMG, the country is opening up, people are going back to work and they need or want a newer car....I Know that boggles the mind for the left...

Oh, and nice pay wall, so nobody can dispute what you say, because they cannot read it.
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Old 05-06-2021, 08:34 AM
 
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Growth of what? The cost of things?
No doubt a sheet of plywood is up over 250% - Thanks Biden.

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?...ram1=921155487
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Old 05-06-2021, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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No doubt a sheet of plywood is up over 250% - Thanks Biden.

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?...ram1=921155487
LOL Trumpers, as usual, expose their ignorance of economics.

The reason plywood prices are going through the roof is because of - ta da! - a housing construction BOOM!

U.S. Housing Market Is Nearly 4 Million Homes Short of Buyer Demand
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April 15, 2021 - The U.S. housing market is 3.8 million single-family homes short of what is needed to meet the country’s demand, according to a new analysis by mortgage-finance company Freddie Mac .

The estimate represents a 52% rise in the nation’s home shortage compared with 2018, the first time Freddie Mac quantified the shortfall.

The figures underscore the severity of the housing deficit, which is a major factor fueling the current red-hot housing market. The shortage is especially acute for entry-level homes, which makes it more expensive for first-time home buyers to enter the market, said Sam Khater, chief economist at Freddie Mac.
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