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I prefer Ivermectin(20+ yr history) if a good vitamin protocol didnt work(multi, c 500x2, vit d, zinc+quercetin) H202 therapy(20+ yr history) is another option
I would feel differently if something more serious like covid=aids.
I think the truth might be the opposite of what you said. The mRNA vaccines cause cells to produce only a small part of the covid spike protein. This smallness means it can potentially pattern-match with many of our own proteins. Which would be very dangerous. Conventional vaccines provide the immune system with a whole virus, or a larger part of a virus. That would restrict the patten-matching process.
So autoimmune diseases might be much more likely to result from mRNA vaccines than from conventional vaccines.
So you May think; do you have studies to back it up?
I am so sorry about your son. He and you have certainly given your all.
In 1976 There was no such talk about a vaccine passport, and I don't know the voluntary status of those injured. As a VA doc I had to get jabbed.
Thank you so much.
And yes, the military is a much different scenario. I was born in Japan during the Vietnam War when Dad was stationed at Fuchu. When my parents were preparing to return in 1971, the military was requiring proof of immunity, not just proof of immunization, for dependants born in Japan to be allowed to come to the US ... Smallpox & Measles, I believe. Even though I had been vaccinated I had no measurable titers. Not much was known about vaccine nonresponders at the time & the military insisted I be revaccinated. I ended up getting the Measles vaccine 4 times in 6 months before they would let my parents bring me to the States. My smallpox ulceration scar disappeared in childhood.
When my son's Immunologist did Ab testing the same thing was noted as well; he hasn't responded to any of his vaccinations, despite that what was his final round caused encephalopathy, resulting in developmental regression. His sister, my first daughter died less than 24 hours after her first vaccines. At the time I just couldn't accept that the vaccines were the cause. It was ruled a SIDS. I argued with my mom & MIL, who suspected the vaccines. I kept vaccinating. Then, after seeing what happened to my son, I realized there must be a genetic link. So, what happened to him is my fault.
I know this has been established now ... Immunogenomics & "Vaccinomics". Since at least 2008 they have been able to prescreen for some of these predispositions to serious adverse events (Variants on the Interleukin genes that control cytokine response & HLA genes) but they aren't doing it out of concern for "uptake metrics". Section #7: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2831634/
If this screening was added to the newborn cord blood testing already done (for PKU, CHF, etc), I wouldn't have any reason to be an antivaxxer anymore, lol. People would be giving truly informed consent, if they knew their personal risk.
I need to familiarize myself better with what happened with the swine flu vaccine. I know it resulted in many cases of GBS, I'm wondering how long it took for this to be realized. I don't want to see this happen again with the covid vaccine. You can't ever "unvaccinate". Once it's done; it's done.
Too early to tell. They say it only last for 6 months. I am not sure what this means. It should be getting to herd immunity. Meaning you can't catch it any more. So we'll wait and see over some time how this vaccine affects the population as a whole. Some people are still skeptical because they don't want to die from taking it. Side effects.
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If you search for information about the new mRNA vaccines by Moderna and Pfizer, you will find long lists of enthusiastic reports about effectiveness, and reassurance about safety. You will find that more and more Americans are willing to get these vaccines. And you will find very little skepticism or concerns. Well, unless you look at the unscientific anti-vax websites, but no one cares what they say.
So it looks like the case is closed, there is no reason to worry that your health could be damaged by these vaccines. Not getting vaccinated, on the other hand, could subject you to intense social pressure. You might even be accused of killing people by giving them the virus, or of preventing herd immunity. And people who don't have a vaccine pass may be prevented from living normally.
That is the side of the story we are told, so naturally we assume it is the only side. What we might not realize is that there has been a public relations campaign dedicated to convincing the public to be vaccinated. That means both sides of the story are not told, and only experts who approve of these vaccines can express their opinions online. With rare exceptions, that are getting harder to find.
Vaccines that use mRNA have never been used on large numbers of healthy people. The scientists who make them might think they know exactly what they are doing, but in reality most of what goes on inside living cells is not understood. Most RNA, and most DNA ,is not understood. Does it really make sense to trust these vaccine makers with our future health?
No longterm testing has been done, obviously, so no one can guess whether some people will experience longterm adverse effects. The public relations campaign reassures us, of course, that longterm side effects won't happen. They have no way to know that, with a new experimental vaccine technology, but they say it anyway.
And if longterm side effects occur, we probably won't even know about it. If the rate of alzheimer's disease increases, for example, we won't know if the vaccines caused it.
And if the rate decreases we also won't know if the vaccines caused it.
People should all be given an opportunity for the shot. If they choose not to get it, that's fine. However, if they get Covid after that, they should only be treated for it in their homes, not hospitals.
Slightly off the current stream of the topic, but about vaccine opinion regardless:
Looks like J&J will be distributing the vaccine beginning next week - rambling up slowly but on par with Moderna and Pfizer within a month. It’s been reported that while it’s 100% effective against hospitalization and death (which of course is the big fear), it’s only around 70% effective against moderate cases. The other two, OTOH, are 95% effective in preventing all symptomatic infection.
Q: if the J&J is offered, would it be better to take it and get decent protection, or wait a couple more months, when all vaccines will be widely available, to get the better one? The risk, of course, is that one could catch COVID during the intervening 2 months, but after that - almost fully protected.
Secondary question: can one take the J&J shot this year, but switch to Moderna or Pfizer for the annual booster, or does one have to remain with the first form of vaccination going forward?
There is a very small chance of that. And we could get eaten by a shark, or a meteor could land on us. There is no perfect safety in this life. But a new experimiental medical intervention is a completly unknown risk.
Tell that to the families of the 520,852 people who have died so far. I'm getting my second shot tomorrow and consider myself lucky.
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