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Old 02-26-2021, 04:34 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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Wow nice way to miss the big main point, and instead try to correct me on some years. The point is it still dropped significantly BEFORE any vaccine was issued, which was after WWII by the way. And the reason for the drop remains the same - indoor plumbing and sanitation.
Hopefully this helps:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/p...-united-states
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Old 02-26-2021, 08:23 PM
 
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Oh yeah - s'right, things just happen.
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Old 02-26-2021, 08:26 PM
 
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Oh yeah - s'right, things just happen.
You will find useful answers in legitimate medical sources.
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Old 02-26-2021, 08:36 PM
 
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Sorry Godfornothing, I totally disagree. , I think you feel everyone is simply stupid ants following along.


First of all, there are risk associated with all medical procedures, supplements, shots etc. I had my knee replaced february 2020. there were risk involved with that and yes there are botch replacement surgeries.
Most adults I know are aware of the risk with vaccines.

Does it make sense to "trust" these vaccines? It's not about Trusting, it's about reading the science and then weighing your options.
Most of the "science" you read about these vaccines is just drug industry press releases. Being scientific means being skeptical and questioning authorities, but we aren't getting that chance. Any information that questions the safety of mRNA vaccines is censored as "dangerous misinformation."



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Now I haven't heard any public declaration that NO side effects will happen, what they are saying is that they are rare. so far we've administered what about 50 million shots? the percentage of serious side effects has been minisucle.
Next mRNA technology has been around, we had success with it combating HIC
It is the possible longterm side effects that people are concerned about. And yes, mRNA technology has been around, but only used on smaller numbers of sick people. Never before on millions of healthy people.


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I am at total peace with my decision. If you choose to not get the vaccine, that is totally cool but please stop the narrative that those of us who do are some ignorant yahoo's incapable of reading and making informed decisions
You were free to make your decision. Everyone who agrees with the authorities is free to get a vaccine. Everyone who disagrees will be forced to get vaccinated against their will. The force will be social pressure, possible state mandates, and being excluded from essential things like travel, work, school, etc.

So there is no free choice. And there is no unbiased scientific information.
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Old 02-26-2021, 08:56 PM
 
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You will find useful answers in legitimate medical sources.
Ah, yeah, influence.

Influence, ah, yeah.

Thanks, I'm on it!
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Old 02-26-2021, 10:05 PM
 
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Oh yeah - s'right, things just happen.
Let's see, the poster you are replying to is a doctor. What are your qualifications? I'll wait
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Old 02-26-2021, 10:07 PM
 
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Most of the "science" you read about these vaccines is just drug industry press releases. Being scientific means being skeptical and questioning authorities, but we aren't getting that chance. Any information that questions the safety of mRNA vaccines is censored as "dangerous misinformation."





It is the possible longterm side effects that people are concerned about. And yes, mRNA technology has been around, but only used on smaller numbers of sick people. Never before on millions of healthy people.




You were free to make your decision. Everyone who agrees with the authorities is free to get a vaccine. Everyone who disagrees will be forced to get vaccinated against their will. The force will be social pressure, possible state mandates, and being excluded from essential things like travel, work, school, etc.

So there is no free choice. And there is no unbiased scientific information.



The data is being publish in peer reviewed medical journals. You statements are based on lack of knowledge.
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Old 02-26-2021, 10:10 PM
 
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Most of the "science" you read about these vaccines is just drug industry press releases. Being scientific means being skeptical and questioning authorities, but we aren't getting that chance. Any information that questions the safety of mRNA vaccines is censored as "dangerous misinformation."





It is the possible longterm side effects that people are concerned about. And yes, mRNA technology has been around, but only used on smaller numbers of sick people. Never before on millions of healthy people.




You were free to make your decision. Everyone who agrees with the authorities is free to get a vaccine. Everyone who disagrees will be forced to get vaccinated against their will. The force will be social pressure, possible state mandates, and being excluded from essential things like travel, work, school, etc.

So there is no free choice. And there is no unbiased scientific information.

You probably have more dangerous drugs even over the counter drugs in your home than any approved vaccine.
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Old 02-27-2021, 02:06 AM
 
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If you already had covid no need for a vaccine.


Congratulations your body vaccinated itself
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Old 02-27-2021, 08:16 AM
 
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Let's see, the poster you are replying to is a doctor. What are your qualifications? I'll wait
First you have to trust the messenger (doctor) before you will trust their message (science). Quote science until pigs fly.
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