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Old 02-27-2021, 11:40 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Biden is walking a fine line between labor unions and environmentalists. Hard to please them both.
This is what happens when the Democrat movement is just a coalition of disparate factions with very different values and beliefs, whose only thing in common is their hatred of traditional American and Western culture and values. There WILL be fault lines between the LGBT community and the Muslim immigrants who are very homophobic, sexist, and anti-Semitic. The Hispanic culture, including the illegal aliens in the caravans, is also a very sexist and homophobic culture.

There will also be fault lines between working class black Americans and illegal Mexican immigrants who drive down wages and work below whatever minimum wage is set at!!!!
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Old 02-28-2021, 05:07 AM
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States should handle minimum wage.
Feds got no business sticking their nose in it.
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Old 02-28-2021, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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The minimal wage is zero. If you want to flip burgers for $15 an hour but someone else can do it for $5 an hour, that's called supply and demand.
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Old 02-28-2021, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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[quote=NJ Brazen_3133;60485812]If someone decides to raise their prices all of a sudden, does that mean the MW needs to go ASAP? What if the market gets lowered, should be lower the MW?

No - wages are way behind. Why nobody gets that ?? And this is a gradual increase, what are you all freaking about. People are working for this money, not a freebie. Don’t want to pay it, Don’t! Invest in something else. It’s like taxes. They go up, like my electric or food bill it went up even though my wage didn’t- so we sucked it up and got a second job or adjusted something. You cry capitalism then if people complain. Some right here crying gasoline is up. Yes it is, and the working class just has to deal with it. Some of you blame it on the Dems - so what is it?? Capitalism or the terrible left?
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Old 02-28-2021, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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There will always be a need for street-sweepers. It's a respectable job. What you're saying here is that you're perfectly fine with a population of people working a full day in a necessary job and still not being able to have their basic needs met, and that's contemptible.
It's a job to be done by teenagers whose "basic needs" are met by there parents.
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Old 02-28-2021, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Yes I'm okay with that, because minimum wage is not meant to be a career. Its not MEANT to feed a family. Its supposed to be for people just entering the workforce. My first job was minimum wage. I now make a six figure salary, and my parents are LEGAL immigrants who fled communism and socialism in their country, so I know that the idea of the traditional American Dream is 1000% true. I will always support capitalism and the idea of working for what you have, and striving to improve your lot in life vs having a sense of entitlement and having everything handed to you for free.

My views are very mainstream in my local community here in the South. Trump won over 80% of the vote here at did every other Republican in recent memory. Our local minimum wage here in this state is $7.25 and many people feel it shouldn't be raised. Many businesses do pay above that, based on market demand. The market is fair and also color blind. It can be also argued that some income inequality isn't necessarily bad in that it pushes more people to work harder and strive more, which in turn makes our country more economically productive overall compared to European countries with their "universal basic income" and "free" healthcare. Also remember that with the current American system, yes the people in the bottom here have it worse than people at the bottom in Europe, but the average American lives far better than the average European.
My first job earned me $3.30/hr working fast food after school. I did not need more because my basic needs were provided by my parents. I now earn $94/hr because now I am an adult and have to pay my own bills.
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Old 02-28-2021, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Unfortunately, that's not the case anymore in many areas. You live in the south. So do high school kids there work at McDonalds and places like that. In my area they don't. They want internships to further their education. They don't want to flip burgers. So who are we going to hire to do these menial jobs that Americans don't want.
You pay more until people choose those jobs if they are important. When I was working in retail, I had a hard time finding employees to work at my Staples store because stocking and selling office supplies was not at "cool" as working at the mall across the street where stores paid commissions to sales people. We had to offer a lot more than minimum wage just to get people to apply.
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Old 02-28-2021, 12:53 PM
 
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Minimum wage should be based on the most expensive parts of country or the most populous parts of the country. That is where all the newly created money is being spent. That is where people feel the pinch of living costs the most. That is where most of the jobs are. That is also how you make the most out of what MW is suppose to do.

Otherwise, the speculators have the most incentive to drive wages down further and further no matter what your skill level is. Most of the labor pool is already there. More competition means lesser wages/prices. It does not matter the product or service the labor provides.

If owners/speculators live in a less populated area, which would also mean least expensive, there is not that much business to be had therefore owners should be able to handle personally. Why hire? Owners should want to just pocket that money for themselves. Unless of course these owners/speculators dont live in the area, but likely in the more expensive parts of the country.
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Old 02-28-2021, 05:50 PM
 
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MInimum wage should be based on the cost of living in the cheapest parts of the country, like the Texas Panhandle, southern West Virginia or rural Kansas since expensive Democrat areas can always set it higher on the local and state level. .
Agreed. I also favor indexing it, once set, to the average raise percentage nationally, automatically, which usually hovers around 2.4% annually.
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