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Sounds just like the high speed rail in california that is years behind schedule and billions over budget despite very little actually being done. Where is all that money?
I haven’t heard much about the technology in the last couple of years and it won’t result in current pipelines being replaced but Canada has found a way of very safely transporting crude by rail to the west coast for shipment to Asian markets:
I wonder if those pellets could be shipped through pipelines via water since water does not seem to affect it and the water could be reused for the same thing.
Crude oil pipelines all over our country are a HUGE risk to our country! If our aquifers are polluted, our land is useless, oil or no oil!
Well, for all the pipelines in this country, I don't recall any credible threat to the environment. I do however recall many incidents with ocean tankers spilling millions of crude and ruining beaches in resort areas. Oil spills on land are easier to clean up than water spills. It would take literally a hundred years for oil to reach an aquifer, plenty of time to clean up before it gets there.
10,000 worked onthe pipeline, and an estimate 30,000 others had jobs related to the pipeline, so ~40,000 in all.
We already have Hundreds of oil pipelines, does 1 more matter?
The only reason its in the news is because the builder refuses to pay the politicians kickbacks, so DC is punishing them for it. I goto this from any insider...no links. He was just laid off from his high level Engineering job building it.
Building roads bridges and rails are riddled with graft and kickbacks too. And, remember the bridge to nowhere?
Joe Biden shutting down Keystone XL is nothing more than a dog and pony show to appease the environmentalists and will do absolutely nothing to very little to save the environment.
We don't need that crude oil from Canada. We are doing just fine now without the Keystone pipeline.
I'm curious. Please explain to me how after reading link after link provided showing the "need" is indeed American in origin, you persist in maintaining this is all "Canadian driven"? Something about "energy security" and "independence" from mid-east to satisfy American demands seems to be illusive to you.
You've yet to counter the fact that; of all the oil dug out of Cold Lake, fully 98% of it is imported by the U.S. as in; purchased by Americans, refined by Americans, sold for profit by Americans to China among others.
Where is that demand originating to have that oil piped to the Gulf Coast American owned refineries?
Where is your over emotive disgust for your own country demanding all of this stuff they can buy only to then 'for profit' selling it on to China?
In all of this broohah, where have you shown that Canada is somehow able to force the U.S. to demand the oil, buy the oil, refine the oil, sell it for profit onward to places like China.
Boy, Canada must be some tough cookie if it can somehow occasion the forcing of a major super power to "pimp" their crude.
Then they don't need a pipeline running through native american land.
Maybe Native Americans might be in favor of becoming business partners with the pipeline and have a stake in its profits. Also be in control of monitoring the line going through their land and contracted to inspect and maintain it. Might just guarantee the end of poverty on their lands, to be part of a solution and have a chance to further the development of their tribal nation and their future.
America is taking the high risk to our land to supply oil to China! That is exactly why I have a problem with the Keystone pipeline!
So what are you complaining about Canada and China for? Your new president just put the kibosh on it and stopped the construction of the Keystone 2 pipeline and you personally should be happy about that then. But he hasn't done anything about all the hundreds of other American built pipelines that exist or about the original Keystone 1 pipeline which has already been piping oil to transfer stations in America for 11 years.
It is America's responsibility to look after itself with the decisions it makes about what it wants to build or to buy so don't expect other countries to babysit America and manage what it's allowed to do or buy or not buy.
If you want America to stop buying oil from Canada and then selling it to China at profit then you need to persuade your American powers that be to stop buying ALL Canadian oil. All of it. Just stop.
In the meantime you are complaining at the wrong people about the wrong thing.
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