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Old 03-02-2021, 10:22 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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We risk the pollution whether the oil is shipped in rail cars or high pressure pipelines. The kicker is: the crude oil from Canada is shipped through US land for export to China! We take the risk. Are we to be suckers?









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No, we shouldn't and that's one of the reason's Biden won. People that care about the environment and clean air and water voted him in.

The vast majority of those jobs were temporary in nature.
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Old 03-02-2021, 10:29 AM
 
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This thread isn't about solar or wind farms. I have no idea what that has to do with my post.

You were critical of the pipeline because it doesn't create many permanent jobs and I suggested the alternative to the pipeline also doesn't create many permanent jobs, thus the number of permanent jobs created is irrelevant to the discussion of whether a pipeline is justified.
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Old 03-02-2021, 10:31 AM
 
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The solar panel industry was booming -- well the installation and servicing -- until Trump nixed that.

When Trump imposed tariffs the reports quoted at least 20K jobs in the solar industry that were lost.

But YEAH Trump.

This is at best long term 35 jobs, short term 3K jobs......and y'all are going crazy.


https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...ump-tariffsThe U.S. solar industry is losing out on the creation of around 62,000 jobs and $19 billion in investment thanks to Trump administration tariffs on imported panels imposed nearly two years ago, according to a report published on Tuesday.

It was booming because taxpayers were paying for 30% of the cost in the form of tax credits.
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Old 03-02-2021, 10:44 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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You were critical of the pipeline because it doesn't create many permanent jobs and I suggested the alternative to the pipeline also doesn't create many permanent jobs, thus the number of permanent jobs created is irrelevant to the discussion of whether a pipeline is justified.
I wasn't critical of the pipeline - I offered no personal comment, either way. I simply cited the actual number of jobs Keystone XL was projected to generate.

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Old 03-02-2021, 10:49 AM
 
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Even without knowing specifics, I am SURE that very expensive pipeline is being built for very good reasons.

Modernity requires both fuel and doing some sort of damage to the planet. Want to very much limit one, the other, or both, go back to living in caves.
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Old 03-02-2021, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Doesn’t the oil get refined in Houston?
Are there not refineries in the Midwest? Why pipe it all the way down to Southeast Texas?
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Old 03-02-2021, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Boston
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woo hooo, close that pipeline and get those oil tankers back where they belong......on American highways

what could go wrong
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Old 03-02-2021, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Crude oil pipelines all over our country is a HUGE risk to our country! If our aquifers are polluted, our land is useless, oil or no oil!
Oil is already in the ground... that's where we get it. The water is usually under the oil.
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Old 03-02-2021, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Not even British Columbia wants that crude oil pipeline (proposed to export to China via west coast) ruining their land.


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British Columbia satisfies many of those criteria. But the big problem for would-be Albertan exporters is that many of their western neighbor’s residents simply don’t want their province, home to mountains, forests and a largely unspoiled coastline, to play host to oil and gas pipelines from which they will derive little benefit. Especially not with the ecological risks involved.
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That meant Alberta’s last real hope was to expand pipelines to the south to carry Canadian crude to U.S. refineries and export terminals on the Gulf coast.
Alberta doesn't have any promising avenues for exporting more oil. Time to trace a post-oil future.
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Old 03-02-2021, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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woo hooo, close that pipeline and get those oil tankers back where they belong......on American highways

what could go wrong
Not going to happen. If our country has any self respect, we will not take on that risk for companies of another country to profit by exporting their oil to China!
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