AOC: $15 wage only 'socialist' to those in 'dystopian capitalist nightmare':2.0 (Jesus, high school)
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so what you (and the fascist liberals) are saying is that some lazy bum, who only show up to work, and does crappy-poor performance, should get paid $15 or more, just because they showed up.... the left has gone completely mental
Straw man. That person would get fired.
Or is everyone who makes minimum wage "lazy", doing a "crappy-poor performance"? Why do you hold poor people in such contempt?
Exactly, the motivation to work is to not be poor. If you work and are still poor, what the hell is the point?
If you work 40 hours a week and are still in poverty, you are probably receiving government aid.
That amounts to government subsidies of wages. The taxpayers should not be subsidizing the wages of Walmart employees. Walmart has more than enough money to pay their employees fairly. Low minimum wage is just socialism for businesses.
25% of the population has an IQ below 90. Good luck on that. We are going to lose a huge chunk of jobs for these people soon. (IE like truck drivers for small example.)
Too much "let the eat cake" attitude on this board.
I also know people with real degrees and skills who made the foolish life decision to get old and now work at big box stores for peanuts. Morons for letting themselves get old.
Or is everyone who makes minimum wage "lazy", doing a "crappy-poor performance"? Why do you hold poor people in such contempt?
I don't hold them in contempt...
1. min wage (and within $2 of min wage) effects only 1-2% of ALL workers
2. min wage is about ENTRY LEVEL for UNSKILLED/experienced workers
3. 99% of workers who start out at min wage, (if they STAY at that job) will get raises at least annually taking them out of min wage range
4. min wage is just that a minimum starting wage for unskilled....everything else is based on experience, education, how you interview, and PERFORMANCE
if you are at a place of employment, and have been there for more than 2 years and you are still making min wage...look in the mirror, because the problem is your performance
If you work 40 hours a week and are still in poverty, you are probably receiving government aid.
That amounts to government subsidies of wages. The taxpayers should not be subsidizing the wages of Walmart employees. Walmart has more than enough money to pay their employees fairly. Low minimum wage is just socialism for businesses.
Walmart is already paying over $15/hr to start in most of the country....
btw..here in NY you could be making $24/hr and still qualify for government assistance.... so your argument of giving people 15/hr will take them off of assistance is a strawman argument
I'm saying that. Tell me where in our constitution it says one has a right to earn a wage that will pay for all their needs? Or where it says one has a right to a job in the first place?
So to be clear, if a person makes minimum wage, tough luck, improve your skills or starve? I just want to make sure I understand the perspective. Does compassion for other human beings play into this at some point in time? There are many who feel people have an inherent right as human beings to have a roof over their head and food on the table.
We live in one of the wealthiest countries in the world. That we'd let people suffer like this is an incredibly odd view to take.
THere's only so many jobs!! If you actually had to earn your way totally on your own, you'd realize this. Many DO have great skills-better than you, smarter than you-the major difference is they aren;t as privileged as you. You need to get that just because you were handed everything in life, not everyone is.
I grew up in a modest house in a very middle class area. I have worked and earned everything I have today. I have inherited no money/assets. My wife has a similar background though her family was poorer than mine. She did the same. We both have worked hard for nearly 30 years to get where we are today. The vast majority of people that have made it in life did it through hard work. Not government subsidy.
1. min wage (and within $2 of min wage) effects only 1-2% of ALL workers
2. min wage is about ENTRY LEVEL for UNSKILLED/experienced workers
3. 99% of workers who start out at min wage, (if they STAY at that job) will get raises at least annually taking them out of min wage range
4. min wage is just that a minimum starting wage for unskilled....everything else is based on experience, education, how you interview, and PERFORMANCE
if you are at a place of employment, and have been there for more than 2 years and you are still making min wage...look in the mirror, because the problem is your performance
Working class hero? If performance is an issue, a firm should fire that employee. If a firm opts not to give an employee a raise after multiple years of experience, that firm is exploiting the employee. In an ideal world, a worker would have rights (remember the unions?) to stand up to their employer. That is not America.
Working class hero? If performance is an issue, a firm should fire that employee. If a firm opts not to give an employee a raise after multiple years of experience, that firm is exploiting the employee. In an ideal world, a worker would have rights (remember the unions?) to stand up to their employer. That is not America.
Yes, you hold workers in contempt.
I have no idea why you feel you have a say in the relationship of other people and their employers.
It follows therefore, that if you do not attain a marketable skill, and you continue to work as a waiter, or clerk, or gas station attendant or whatever, that it is your fault for being poor?
Are you saying that hard working Americans deserve to be in poverty, even if they work 40 hours a week? The Conservative movement has lost its way.
Are you kidding me ? So, because these individuals made the choice to make a career out of non skilled or low skilled labor, we force the companies to pay more ?
When I was 16, one of my many non skilled jobs that I had back then, was a cook at a local restaurant. It was fun, and sort of easy. I could have stayed there, instead of working towards being a design engineer which I've been doing for over 30 years now. I chose not to, because I had the intelligence enough, to realize what I was getting paid, wasn't going to afford me the lifestyle that I wanted.
We all make choices in life, and choices have consequences.
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