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Old 03-05-2021, 04:35 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Excellent post with lots of great facts. Something else that gets glossed over in their zeal to paint white people as evil is the fact that blacks sold blacks. Blacks could have ended slavery in a split second. All they had to do was quit rounding up black people and stop selling them. It has to hurt to realize it was your own people selling you. Although it doesn't because that is just flatly ignored. Something else that is ignored, is that it was whites who shed blood to end the slavery of blacks. All the white guilt freaks can chew on that.
Guilt-stricken liberals (and I am a liberal Democrat) love to place the hair shirt on others.

 
Old 03-05-2021, 05:34 AM
 
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Excellent post with lots of great facts. Something else that gets glossed over in their zeal to paint white people as evil is the fact that blacks sold blacks. Blacks could have ended slavery in a split second. All they had to do was quit rounding up black people and stop selling them. It has to hurt to realize it was your own people selling you. Although it doesn't because that is just flatly ignored. Something else that is ignored, is that it was whites who shed blood to end the slavery of blacks. All the white guilt freaks can chew on that.
"the fact that blacks sold blacks"

I have noted to myself not ONCE in ANY Black HISTORY month TV ad or show did I see ANY mention of Africa yet, they proudly call themselves AFRO-ameican.
 
Old 03-05-2021, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Yea I know you're going to say "but they had the freedom to walk away" but did they really?

"It already happened 300 years back, the white people were called *Irish*. Up until the mid-1800*s there were more Irish slaves and indentured servants than blacks in the US. Cromwell and the English would gift Irish kids to their friends as presents. In fact, one black slave was worth five Irish at auction. They were a dime a dozen, and treated extremely poorly, often buried in mass graves, like the Duffy Cut in Malvern, PA"

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...later-9194680/
There were a lot of Irish indentured servants. They signed contracts, usually of seven years duration, during which time they were fed and housed in exchange for their labor. At the end of the contract they were free to pursue whatever interested them.

They were not taken from their homes by force and held in lifetime bondage. If you have any link to information about Irish immigrants held in actual slavery, please provide them. The article you linked to doesn't say a word about any Irish slaves.
 
Old 03-05-2021, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Houston
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There were a lot of Irish indentured servants. They signed contracts, usually of seven years duration, during which time they were fed and housed in exchange for their labor. At the end of the contract they were free to pursue whatever interested them.

They were not taken from their homes by force and held in lifetime bondage. If you have any link to information about Irish immigrants held in actual slavery, please provide them. The article you linked to doesn't say a word about any Irish slaves.
Nor were they raped and have their children sold.
 
Old 03-05-2021, 07:43 AM
 
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Yea I know you're going to say "but they had the freedom to walk away" but did they really?

"It already happened 300 years back, the white people were called *Irish*. Up until the mid-1800*s there were more Irish slaves and indentured servants than blacks in the US. Cromwell and the English would gift Irish kids to their friends as presents. In fact, one black slave was worth five Irish at auction. They were a dime a dozen, and treated extremely poorly, often buried in mass graves, like the Duffy Cut in Malvern, PA"

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...later-9194680/
Yeah they will and have.

Yup well known facts.

Thanks for sharing.
 
Old 03-05-2021, 07:55 AM
 
Location: NYC
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We home grew that racism and terrorism toward White folk right here. And it was done during some of your life times, not 300 years ago.
Everything is a ReMix
 
Old 03-06-2021, 05:21 AM
 
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There were a lot of Irish indentured servants. They signed contracts, usually of seven years duration, during which time they were fed and housed in exchange for their labor. At the end of the contract they were free to pursue whatever interested them.

They were not taken from their homes by force and held in lifetime bondage. If you have any link to information about Irish immigrants held in actual slavery, please provide them. The article you linked to doesn't say a word about any Irish slaves.
The 1st blacks who came here were ALSO indentured servants.
 
Old 03-06-2021, 05:42 AM
 
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Indentued servitude was 7 years of pure hell and if you survived in one piece you got your freedom.
And you PERSONALLY experienced this?

It was NOT uncommon for slave owners to keep families together.

It was NOT uncommon to treat salves better then you claim because having to buy ANOTHER slave to replace one is an EXTRA COST.

By 1651, Johnson, an indentured servant, gained his freedom and acquired land and servants.

I am NOT trying to dismiss slavery, and it was bad but, it was NOT always AS BAD a some claim.
 
Old 03-06-2021, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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And going beyond your insensitive post, you do realize that ALL blacks in the US were slaves, right? There were no blacks that ever did anything in US history before 1865 besides being slaves. There were none who had jobs, owned property, had businesses, fought in wars, and generally lived as every other free person in the states did. Every one was a slave. Any original source material that says any different is a lie made up by the meanies of the times meant to confuse liberals hundreds of years later.
https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/african...um-period.html
 
Old 03-06-2021, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Yea I know you're going to say "but they had the freedom to walk away" but did they really?

"It already happened 300 years back, the white people were called *Irish*. Up until the mid-1800*s there were more Irish slaves and indentured servants than blacks in the US. Cromwell and the English would gift Irish kids to their friends as presents. In fact, one black slave was worth five Irish at auction. They were a dime a dozen, and treated extremely poorly, often buried in mass graves, like the Duffy Cut in Malvern, PA"

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...later-9194680/
Indentured people typically made a choice to immigrate whereas a slave was not given a choice.

Indentured and slave people were freely traded. Indentured people, often of Irish decent, traded for less than a slave because the indentured had opportunity to to earn freedom.

Children born to a slave mother were born into slavery.

Children born to an indentured mother were free of indenture.
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