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They seceded from Clow World... by ending the Covid mask restrictions and opening everything up.
Knuckle dragging ape man Joe Biden called them neandethals.
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Originally Posted by temptation001
Actually, Biden called the governor Greg Abbott a neanderthal, which is okay....
"Neanderthal thinking" was what President Joe Biden's unusually direct description of the decision by governors in Texas and Mississippi to prematurely end mask restrictions was....
The moves by the Republicans, Govs. Greg Abbott in Texas and Tate Reeves in Mississippi, came the day after the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director pleaded with Americans and policymakers not to let up as infection rates fall and vaccination rates rise.
Here we have a WORLD with restrictions and mask from Russia to China and all over. Then the US CANNOT AS A NATION HAVE A UNIFIED PANDEMIC POLICY CAUSE STATES CAN GO ROGUE IF THEIR GOVERNORS CHOOSE.
It is a sign that the Federal Government does NOT HAVE FULL CONTROL. I for one believe as a Nation for us in a time of a Pandemic where the WORLD has restrictions. It is strange that only a literal war.... has more a Federal Government in control over states.
We can bicker over Texas wanting to do its own thing and it Power Company to avoid Government regulations. Still for this Pandemic to be so HAPHAZARDLY ENFORCED by states doing their own thing. Was something that history may write as a mistake and still nothing will change.
There is a lot involved in any succession. The WHOLE US would be compromised and weakened. The way the Stock Market gets SPOOKED so easy today.... guess where it would go. Does that help Texans 401k's and other investments?
Corporations would have to make decisions of to stay and keep as headquarters and what that all changes.
NASA probably pull out as that is still a Government entity and supported.
Military Bases and installations and new one installed for Texas.
Migrations of companies and people changed forever.
Border choices made also that may not be nice.
Some think this would be some GREAT MOVEMENT AND BOOM FOR TEXAS? Well, maybe time for some to post how great it would be and benefit them?
We currently have China creating or have created the Largest Naval force. A weakened US would not help anyone in the so-called free-world and how it strengthens a Texas on its own??? I surely do not know given the scope of the World's issues today.
A Texas and especially .... a Whole Deep South succession would MEAN THE USA AND POWER AND WORLD CLOUT Diminished and compromised beyond repair..... and the power of the Dollar $$$ would be weakened considerably also and probably be as some fallen Nations in stature power and their currency has gone.
This ALL should have happened DECADES Ago when this Nation was still a rising power especially. Today it just would be a infrastructure and Institutional mess weakening a once PROUD USA forever in the world for gains that would take time to be seen if at all for a independent Texas or South.
You'all can say you lost Pride in the US because of the Government and Political Party etc. Still there is so much else to loose and upheaval to recover from to make it a total SELF-DESTRUCTIVE MESS.
If you'all think it would be a GREAT DEAL? That is basically what this thread ask no????
Why do you believe this? All the indications are that the USA is becoming more integrated - look at what has happened to Virginia and Georgia. They are getting blue-er every single day. Same is true for Texas, the more liberal suburbs will continue to sprawl, the wealthier blue-leaners and corporations will continue to buy up rural land.
I don't see any trend toward secession. I hear a very noisy minority yacking about it, that's all.
Virginia is a bureaucratic extension of Washington DC. Georgia is an entertainment extension of Hollywood (ironically due to tax breaks).
Florida and Ohio, OTH, trended red. Probably because most hard-working Americans reject overpaid bureaucrats and celebrities, choosing rather to focus on their family's livelihood and being responsible adults, accountable for their own actions.
There is no Constitutional process for legal secession. During the Civil War, Texas and all the other southern states, were still part of the United States. In 1869, the USSC decided in the case of Texas vs. White that individual states could not unilaterally secede from the Union and action by the Texas legislature even with ratification by the citizen's to do so were "absolutely null."
Even the revered Antonin Scalia agreed. When asked in 2006 if it could happen, his reply was “The answer is clear. If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede. (Hence, in the Pledge of Allegiance, ‘one Nation, indivisible.’)”
That same ruling though did lay out that a state can petition to leave the Union by gaining approval of both houses of Congress and a 3/4 approval of all other states. That would be difficult.
Revolution of course is the other choice. Would lifted pickups be of any use against the military?
Actually Chase mentioned revolution as well as an option in that case.
But it's not the 1860's. Let's say a state votes to secede and the U.S. government again decides to crush it militarily. Do you understand what the consequences would be for that internationally these days? There's a reason other nations have held votes with no threat of military involvement on questions of secession. Canada and Quebec, the U.K. and Scotland. Czechoslovakia peacefully split up. While the first civil war could be justified to end slavery, you would have no such defense for it today. The dollar as world's reserve currency would no doubt be over which would lead to an irreversible financial and economic collapse of the nation. Banning the peaceful change of a government only ensures violence. Do you wish to force an unwanted government on others so badly that you'd accept the violence and economic fallout, when it would just as likely lead to the complete breakup of the nation anyways then or later?
There is no Constitutional process for legal secession. During the Civil War, Texas and all the other southern states, were still part of the United States. In 1869, the USSC decided in the case of Texas vs. White that individual states could not unilaterally secede from the Union and action by the Texas legislature even with ratification by the citizen's to do so were "absolutely null."
Even the revered Antonin Scalia agreed. When asked in 2006 if it could happen, his reply was “The answer is clear. If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede. (Hence, in the Pledge of Allegiance, ‘one Nation, indivisible.’)”
That same ruling though did lay out that a state can petition to leave the Union by gaining approval of both houses of Congress and a 3/4 approval of all other states. That would be difficult.
Revolution of course is the other choice. Would lifted pickups be of any use against the military?
Secession is legal. The fact that you can find people who will argue the contrary is irrelevant.
Actually Chase mentioned revolution as well as an option in that case.
But it's not the 1860's. Let's say a state votes to secede and the U.S. government again decides to crush it militarily. Do you understand what the consequences would be for that internationally these days? There's a reason other nations have held votes with no threat of military involvement on questions of secession. Canada and Quebec, the U.K. and Scotland. Czechoslovakia peacefully split up. While the first civil war could be justified to end slavery, you would have no such defense for it today. The dollar as world's reserve currency would no doubt be over which would lead to an irreversible financial and economic collapse of the nation. Banning the peaceful change of a government only ensures violence. Do you wish to force an unwanted government on others so badly that you'd accept the violence and economic fallout, when it would just as likely lead to the complete breakup of the nation anyways then or later?
I was merely listing the options. If Texas wants to leave the union, there is a process by getting approval from Congress and 75% of the states. I doubt it would work.
If Texas threatened revolution, how would that work? They don't have an army, the National Guard pledges loyalty to the US Constitution. There's no real threat of an armed succession.
I was merely listing the options. If Texas wants to leave the union, there is a process by getting approval from Congress and 75% of the states. I doubt it would work.
If Texas threatened revolution, how would that work? They don't have an army, the National Guard pledges loyalty to the US Constitution. There's no real threat of an armed succession.
Secession is legal. The fact that you can find people who will argue the contrary is irrelevant.
Even if it is technically legal, that won't stop the U.S. from brutally suppressing any attempts to do so. They've already shown they are willing to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of lives to maintain their illegal and unconstitutional empire. I'm rooting for Texas, but does anyone really think Washington will let them get away with it?
Didn't Texans say a while back that they wanted to secede?
And I said, let them go.
Texas is it's own worst enemy.
People like you who think they know what's best for a state they have no attachment too are the problem.
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Does that help Texans 401k's and other investments?
