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Old 03-06-2021, 04:34 PM
 
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New York City saw a 75% jump in shootings this February compared to last, despite a slowdown in reported murders and felony assaultd, as the city’s and state’s top officials seem at odds over Big Apple crime and safety.


The New York Police Department (NYPD) recorded 77 shootings in February compared to the 44 reported during the same month last year, police officials announced Thursday. Meanwhile, February saw one less murder this year, with 21, and a decrease in felonious murders by just under 8%, the department said.
As of Tuesday, there were 160 shootings reported this year, with 173 victims, compared to the 115 shootings and 131 victims reported during the same timeframe in 2020, police said. Ten of the shooting victims so far this year have been between the ages of 10 and 17, up from the six reported year-over-year.

Now, you see just how well gun control works!



Gun Control is not about guns; it's about control. And, that sure isn't working in NYC and a ton of other liberal cities n the US
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Old 03-06-2021, 04:53 PM
 
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So St. Louis which is open carry, they must have a lower shootings and murder rate than New York

will have to look into it
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Old 03-06-2021, 05:26 PM
 
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Now, you see just how well gun control works!



Gun Control is not about guns; it's about control. And, that sure isn't working in NYC and a ton of other liberal cities n the US


Can't be true, NY has tough Gun Laws and criminals obey the Law......right?
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Old 03-06-2021, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Originally Posted by mike1003 View Post
https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-febru...ity-in-america

Now, you see just how well gun control works!

Gun Control is not about guns; it's about control. And, that sure isn't working in NYC and a ton of other liberal cities n the US
Do the righties here know how to apply logic?

It appears they don't.

The OP is citing increased shootings in NYC over the last year as proof that gun control laws don't work.

But this is where the OP didn't even begin to apply any logic.

For gun control laws to have led to an increase in shootings over the last year, there would have to have been some drastic new gun control law enacted in NYC in the last year.

But the inconvenient fact is, there wasn't.

Thus the OP's premise fails miserably. Any increase in shootings over the last year is just random noise.

BTW, year to date, most crime in NYC is actually down compared to the same period last year:
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/dow...en-us-city.pdf

Year to date stats:
Murder down 4.1%
Rape down 25.3%
Robbery down 35.2%
Felonious assault (which includes shootings) down 7.3%
Burglary down 12.2%
Grand larceny down 36.4%
Only Grand Larceny Auto is up, by 12.6%

Thus the OP's attempt has failed miserably.
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Old 03-06-2021, 05:38 PM
 
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Do the righties here know how to apply logic?

It appears they don't.

The OP is citing increased shootings in NYC over the last year as proof that gun control laws don't work.

But this is where the OP didn't even begin to apply any logic.

For gun control laws to have led to an increase in shootings over the last year, there would have to have been some drastic new gun control law enacted in NYC in the last year.

But the inconvenient fact is, there wasn't.

Thus the OP's premise fails miserably. Any increase in shootings over the last year is just random noise.

BTW, year to date, most crime in NYC is actually down compared to the same period last year:
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/dow...en-us-city.pdf

Year to date stats:
Murder down 4.1%
Rape down 25.3%
Robber down 35.2%
Felonious assault (which includes shootings) down 7.3%
Burglary down 12.2%
Grand larceny down 36.4%
Only Grand Larceny Auto is up, by 12.6%

Thus the OP's attempt has failed miserably.



What!?!
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Old 03-06-2021, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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What!?!
Statistics and logic are difficult for righties, I know. Sorry if that's too difficult for you to understand.
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Old 03-06-2021, 05:44 PM
 
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De Blasio wouldn't send his ego into the city without an armed escort !!!
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Old 03-06-2021, 05:48 PM
 
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Statistics and logic are difficult for righties, I know. Sorry if that's too difficult for you to understand.


No, what I bolded was something that no one claimed.
The point you were quick to miss/ disregard was that the Gun Control Laws did not prevent this, not caused an increased it as you wrote.
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Old 03-06-2021, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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No, what I bolded was something that no one claimed.
The point you were quick to miss/ disregard was that the Gun Control Laws did not prevent this, not caused an increased it as you wrote.
Uhhh, yes, the OP explicitly said gun control laws don't work. Did you not read it?
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Originally Posted by mike1003 View Post
Now, you see just how well gun control works!

Gun Control is not about guns; it's about control. And, that sure isn't working in NYC and a ton of other liberal cities n the US
I did not say gun control laws had anything to do with anything in NYC compared to last year. If anything, I said the opposite. I said that, because there were no new gun laws in NYC since last year, any rise in shootings could not have had anything to do with any gun laws. I even explicitly said, "Any increase in shootings over the last year is just random noise."

"Random noise" has nothing to do with gun laws.
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Old 03-06-2021, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007 View Post
Do the righties here know how to apply logic?

It appears they don't.

The OP is citing increased shootings in NYC over the last year as proof that gun control laws don't work.

But this is where the OP didn't even begin to apply any logic.

For gun control laws to have led to an increase in shootings over the last year, there would have to have been some drastic new gun control law enacted in NYC in the last year.

But the inconvenient fact is, there wasn't.

Thus the OP's premise fails miserably. Any increase in shootings over the last year is just random noise.

BTW, year to date, most crime in NYC is actually down compared to the same period last year:
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/dow...en-us-city.pdf

Year to date stats:
Murder down 4.1%
Rape down 25.3%
Robbery down 35.2%
Felonious assault (which includes shootings) down 7.3%
Burglary down 12.2%
Grand larceny down 36.4%
Only Grand Larceny Auto is up, by 12.6%

Thus the OP's attempt has failed miserably.
Yes, unless there's a change in gun laws a change in shooting statistics can't be correlated, much less causation proved.

The best way to reduce shootings is to end the drug war. Liquor store owners aren't shooting each other.
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