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Old 03-07-2021, 08:15 PM
 
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Ted Cruz claims that there about 12 million illegal immigrants and 60% are here from visa overstays and that millions of that group have social security numbers.

Ted Cruz claims therefore the mainstream media fact checkers and Democrats are lying when they say that illegal immigrants can't get stimulus checks, because it only goes to people with social security numbers.

Ted Cruz points out that he tried to pass an amendment to the bill so that murderers, rapists, and child molesters that are currently in prison couldn't get the stimulus check and the Democrats blocked that. That he also tried to pass an amendment specifically to block illegal immigrants with social security numbers from getting stimulus and the Democrats blocked that.

Ted Cruz finally states that we can't have unity when the media blatantly lies about big issues while pretending to be neutral fact checkers.
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Old 03-07-2021, 08:16 PM
 
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Ted Cruz is an A-Hole who abandons the people he works for during the moments they need him the most. Nobody should be listening to anything this guy says. The only thing they should be doing is voting him right out on his @SS.
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Old 03-07-2021, 08:35 PM
 
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Ted Cruz is an A-Hole who abandons the people he works for during the moments they need him the most. Nobody should be listening to anything this guy says. The only thing they should be doing is voting him right out on his @SS.
Does that make what he said less true? I would say that is a separate issue. I care about the message far more than the messenger.
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Old 03-07-2021, 08:38 PM
 
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Ted Cruz is an A-Hole who abandons the people he works for during the moments they need him the most. Nobody should be listening to anything this guy says. The only thing they should be doing is voting him right out on his @SS.


"According to a recent Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration audit, the labor market includes a shocking 1.4 million employed illegal aliens who in 2015 used falsified or stolen Social Security numbers to get hired."

https://www.vvdailypress.com/news/20...curity-numbers
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Old 03-07-2021, 08:43 PM
 
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"According to a recent Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration audit, the labor market includes a shocking 1.4 million employed illegal aliens who in 2015 used falsified or stolen Social Security numbers to get hired."

https://www.vvdailypress.com/news/20...curity-numbers
The question should be: who employed them?


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Eligibility for a Social Security Number
Temporary workers and those in non-immigrant visa status who are authorized to work in the United States by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) can get a Social Security number (SSN).
https://www.thebalancecareers.com/ho...tizens-2064264
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Old 03-07-2021, 08:59 PM
 
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The question should be: who employed them?
IF an illegal used a falsified or stolen Social Security number to get hired, is that the fault of the ones who hired them?
This thread is about illegals and not about those who come here legally, so stop trying to muddy the water.
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Old 03-07-2021, 09:07 PM
 
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IF an illegal used a falsified or stolen Social Security number to get hired, is that the fault of the ones who hired them?
This thread is about illegals and not about those who come here legally, so stop trying to muddy the water.
Employers muddy the waters when they refuse to check for legal status of immigrants before hiring them for the sole purpose of exploiting them. This is the root cause of illegal immigrants coming over the border, because they are hired.

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The INA requires employers to verify the identity and employment eligibility of all employees hired after November 6, 1986, by completing the Employment Eligibility Verification (I-9) Form, and reviewing documents showing the employee's identity and employment authorization. Other state and federal laws require some employers to use E-Verify. Federal law prohibits employers from rejecting valid documents or insisting on additional documents beyond what is required for the Form I-9 or E-Verify processes, based on an employee's citizenship status or national origin.
https://www.eeoc.gov/pre-employment-...0authorization.
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Old 03-07-2021, 09:23 PM
 
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Ted Cruz is an A-Hole who abandons the people he works for during the moments they need him the most. Nobody should be listening to anything this guy says. The only thing they should be doing is voting him right out on his @SS.
Ridiculous.
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Old 03-07-2021, 09:26 PM
 
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Employers muddy the waters when they refuse to check for legal status of immigrants before hiring them for the sole purpose of exploiting them. This is the root cause of illegal immigrants coming over the border, because they are hired.
And everyone who wants to stop illegal immigration wants to punish those who encourage it.
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Old 03-07-2021, 09:40 PM
 
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Employers muddy the waters when they refuse to check for legal status of immigrants before hiring them for the sole purpose of exploiting them. This is the root cause of illegal immigrants coming over the border, because they are hired.

https://www.eeoc.gov/pre-employment-...0authorization.
Is there a law that requires them to verify legal status? NO. Tell the dems to stop focusing on rewarding illegals and start focusing on making life impossible for them. In fact the left would scream racism and xenophobia if employers started doing what you suggest.

Why cant I buy and register a stolen car in my name? Why can't a steel a car and register it in my name?

You want employers to stop hiring illegals? Me too. pass the law and create a reliable and robust E-Verify system. Then hammer any scumbag caught hiring illegals, but also hammer the scumbag illegal.

I would make E-verify mandatory for all employers, schools, landlords, government agencies and police departments.

No need to give the car thief a free pass by just arresting the the owner of the chop shop. Nail them both.
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