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Old 03-09-2021, 08:52 AM
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https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...excerpt-474322

"...When they sat down with the scientists at the WIV, the American diplomats were shocked by what they heard. The Chinese researchers told them they didn’t have enough properly trained technicians to safely operate their BSL-4 lab. The Wuhan scientists were asking for more support to get the lab up to top standards.

The diplomats wrote two cables to Washington reporting on their visits to the Wuhan lab. More should be done to help the lab meet top safety standards, they said, and they urged Washington to get on it. They also warned that the WIV researchers had found new bat coronaviruses could easily infect human cells, and which used the same cellular route that had been used by the original SARS coronavirus.

Taken together, those two points—a particularly dangerous groups of viruses being studied in a lab with real safety problems—were intended as a warning about a potential public-health crisis, one of the cable writers told me. They kept the cables unclassified because they wanted more people back home to be able to read and share them, according to the cable writer. But there was no response from State Department headquarters and they were never made public. And as U.S.-China tensions rose over the course of 2018, American diplomats lost access to labs such as the one at the WIV...."


Its a good read on information available about the risks at the Wuhan lab. China has remained irresponsible and refused to help the rest of the world understand about the source of the virus. But we know they were not secure and were doing (I didn't quote that part of the article) "gain of function" experiments to make the virus more dangerous to humans, as a way to study virus evolution.
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Old 03-09-2021, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Event 201.......
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Old 03-09-2021, 09:01 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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Yes, I do think the world needs a strong international treaty for the safe handling of dangerous biological materials. This stuff is just too risky to allow lax safety measures. Events like the explosion at the Russian VECTOR Institute in 2019 need to be allowed access to international investigative teams.
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Old 03-09-2021, 09:04 AM
 
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If the answer you are trying to reach is that it’s Trump’s fault because he didn’t throw a bunch of money at the Wuhan lab, that’s completely wrong. Any answer besides China needs to shut that facility down is the wrong answer.

The WHO surely knew about this, and they did nothing.

It’s not the USA’s responsibility to fix the world.
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Old 03-09-2021, 10:06 AM
 
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Side note... do you see the air in that photo at the link? All of these CO2 alarmists should focus their attention on China.

I would like someone to explain what good comes from the intense study of these bat viruses - because I see no good from this effort. Leave the bats alone.
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Old 03-09-2021, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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So drop a nuke on the "lab" and incinerate it.
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Old 03-09-2021, 10:48 AM
 
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So drop a nuke on the "lab" and incinerate it.
Whoa... whoa... that's a bit much...

I would just do a Nashville special - that would work for me.
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Old 03-09-2021, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Seacoast NH
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If the answer you are trying to reach is that it’s Trump’s fault because he didn’t throw a bunch of money at the Wuhan lab, that’s completely wrong. Any answer besides China needs to shut that facility down is the wrong answer.

The WHO surely knew about this, and they did nothing.

It’s not the USA’s responsibility to fix the world.

While true, we are actually the ones funding the research thru the NIH. That is a serious problem that our tax dollars are being used to speed up our demise.
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Old 03-09-2021, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Currently in Florida for a little while
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China must be very pleased that Joe Biden is now president.
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