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California has 88 Whole Foods. North Dakota has 0 Whole Foods. Whole Foods obviously makes people anxious. Duh!
I would say people in North Dakota have their own gardens and grow wonderful fresh produce, farmers markets etc... so no need for Whole Foods.
I grew up in California and yes it has changed a lot, bumper to bumper traffic on freeways and off, roadworks everywhere, high cost of living can take away a lot of joy. I remember all the orange and lemon groves, strawberry fields, open lands and now all covered with houses and read where they were planning to build more. I’m not against progress when it benefits a way of life, but unfortunately we don’t know when to stop.
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I would say people in North Dakota have their own gardens and grow wonderful fresh produce, farmers markets etc... so no need for Whole Foods.
I grew up in California and yes it has changed a lot, bumper to bumper traffic on freeways and off, roadworks everywhere, high cost of living can take away a lot of joy. I remember all the orange and lemon groves, strawberry fields, open lands and now all covered with houses and read where they were planning to build more. I’m not against progress when it benefits a way of life, but unfortunately we don’t know when to stop.
Ding-ding-ding! No more calls, folks. We have a winner.
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"(North Dakota) Having an excellent nightlife, indoor dining and open stores like California could never even dream"
is this a joke? Even with the strictest lockdowns, California still has far more things to do than North Dakota. Once the outdoor dining only restriction is lifted (this week) then what do you see about the dining options in California vs North Dakota? Same for stores, as for night life, the idea that North Dakota has more options is ridiculous.
Kalifornica is heaven for those who cannot live without constant amusement.
I would say people in North Dakota have their own gardens and grow wonderful fresh produce, farmers markets etc... so no need for Whole Foods.
I grew up in California and yes it has changed a lot, bumper to bumper traffic on freeways and off, roadworks everywhere, high cost of living can take away a lot of joy. I remember all the orange and lemon groves, strawberry fields, open lands and now all covered with houses and read where they were planning to build more. I’m not against progress when it benefits a way of life, but unfortunately we don’t know when to stop.
Same here but the farmers markets are all year long. I think there is one almost every day of the week as produce is grown all year long. Yeah, it is crowded along the coast in the LA and SF Bay Area. Anyway, one area has jobs, mild weather, and is very desirable. and another is a frozen tundra most of the year. I doubt they are growing anything but ice. I imagine ND is for the first people and people that were born there. It's all good.
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If you enjoy your day life you don't need to have some amusing night life to make up for being unhappy.
That's an interesting take. Considering most people's "day life" is taken up by their job, even people who like their jobs like myself, still don't get enough satisfaction out of that that they don't also want some entertainment. Why do think things like pro sports, amusement parks, bowling alleys, night clubs exist?
North Dakota generally has something for everyone which I think is the secret sauce. Cities like Grand Forks and Fargo have massive single populations, Bismarck is full of financially secure baby boomers and retirees who love the ease of everything with families mixed in. Williston for those looking to make a fortune. Valley City for retirees. Something for everyone.
Fargo is a great place, truly an underrated gem. Valley City is rather pretty (and definitely hillier than most of the state), but it's small and isolated, so it would only work for people who like a slow, quiet pace of life.
If you're a young single who likes nightlife and partying, while it's possible to find that lifestyle in Fargo, you're likely going to enjoy San Francisco a whole lot more. But if you have a family and enjoy more simple pleasures, North Dakota will give you a much better quality of life than California. Except for the weather.
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