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Old 03-10-2021, 10:58 AM
 
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The legality of it is an issue for the courts to decide.

But there is no evidence that any of the above resulted in fraud or error. Aren't you just admitting that the only way Republicans can win is by making it hard for people to vote?
Didnt the efforts on the post office kinda tell you that?
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Old 03-10-2021, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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The legality of it is an issue for the courts to decide.

But there is no evidence that any of the above resulted in fraud or error. Aren't you just admitting that the only way Republicans can win is by making it hard for people to vote?


They only way you could win was to illegally change voting laws and use a global pandemic as a political weapon.


Here's some chit for you to ponder, Sherlock:

Voting isn't supposed to be THAT easy

There's supposed to be a system in place that alllows for verification of people voting LEGALLY.

Of people being verified as being American citizens.

Of not voting twice or in two or more locations.

Of actually being alive.

That's why many countries don't allow mail in ballots.
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Old 03-10-2021, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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They only way you could win was to illegally change voting laws and use a global pandemic as a political weapon.


Here's some chit for you to ponder, Sherlock:

Voting isn't supposed to be THAT easy

There's supposed to be a system in place that alllows for verification of people voting LEGALLY.

Of people being verified as being American citizens.

Of not voting twice or in two or more locations.

Of actually being alive.

That's why many countries don't allow mail in ballots.

It can't get much simpler than that. That they refuse to get it says a lot about our culture these days.
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Old 03-10-2021, 11:52 AM
 
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No, I don't see a difference in meaning. I see the word "at" that's different, but the meaning isn't different.

We lost the ballot box and we lost at the ballot box mean the same thing.

We lost the game, and we lost at the game mean the same thing.
No Clara, you're wrong.

They don't mean the same thing.

We lost the ballot box means losing the ability to decide who takes office by casting votes. That's what Pilot was conveying. He feels that way because he feels that Trump actually got more valid votes than Biden did, with the final totals not being true totals. Not being true totals is materially the same thing as not having a ballot box (a true (correct) ballot box). It's a criticism of how the election was handled.

We lost at the ballot box is not questioning the validity (the results) of the ballot box (the election). It's the same as saying/acknowledging we lost the election. It's an acceptance of how the election was handled.
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Old 03-10-2021, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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I had such hope for you, sincerely, in your last post when you admitted you "lost at the ballot box". Sounds like you were accepting reality.

Guess not.
Your statements and positions only validate the veracity of mine.
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Old 03-10-2021, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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No Clara, you're wrong.

They don't mean the same thing.

We lost the ballot box means losing the ability to decide who takes office by casting votes. That's what Pilot was conveying. He feels that way because he feels that Trump actually got more valid votes than Biden did, with the final totals not being true totals. Not being true totals is materially the same thing as not having a ballot box (a true (correct) ballot box). It's a criticism of how the election was handled.

We lost at the ballot box is not questioning the validity (the results) of the ballot box (the election). It's the same as saying/acknowledging we lost the election. It's an acceptance of how the election was handled.
Exactly! Thank you. Voting and elections no longer matter. We have lost that institution to fraud and corruption. .
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Old 03-10-2021, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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It can't get much simpler than that. That they refuse to get it says a lot about our culture these days.




Oh, they get it.

They're just complicit with the way things are now because it's working in their favor.

Kind of like the way they're all for "private companies doing what they want".


.....Until they don't want to bake a cake for a gay couple.
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Old 03-10-2021, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Originally Posted by FatBob96 View Post
They only way you could win was to illegally change voting laws and use a global pandemic as a political weapon.


Here's some chit for you to ponder, Sherlock:

Voting isn't supposed to be THAT easy

There's supposed to be a system in place that alllows for verification of people voting LEGALLY.

Of people being verified as being American citizens.

Of not voting twice or in two or more locations.

Of actually being alive.

That's why many countries don't allow mail in ballots.
Bam, smash, pow, you NAILED it!
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Old 03-10-2021, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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I don't think acting like the Dems is the answer. We need to get local. Have local events. Create a grassroots effort. Need to reach the people w/o the media. Get our ideas out there without being negative Nancies. The fringe on both sides acts like idiots. Reach the middle and show them why the Republic ideas are better. Be smart, not a bully.


cd :O)
This ^^^^^
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Old 03-10-2021, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Things Republicans can do to stop their craziness:

1. Wear a mask, get vaccinated as soon as you are eligible
2. Put country over party - party over personality
3. Respect the Constitution and our democratic principles.
Psychological projection is a defense mechanism in which the ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities by denying their existence in themselves by attributing them to others.
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