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He is....He is fading away and alot of people in the GOP want that to happen.
If they do, they are far too wishy washy about it. The faster the Republican Party can move on from Trump, the better the nation will be because we can have two-party rule. I see Trump as an albatross similar to the anti-New Deal Republicans (granted they were more modern-day conservative Democrat back then.)
It’s about the precedents Trump introduced to the presidency. Trumpism is about idol worshiping which never existed in the Republican (or democrat) party before. It’s about fighting to the end for a man (like for the Alamo). It’s about justifying anything and everything to keep ONE MAN in power (not even the Republican Party). It’s about the non peaceful passing of power to the next admin. (As Trump himself put it: I could shoot someone on 5th Ave and my base will defend me, no matter what). That’s Trumpism.
The term Trumpism began long before Trump was president. And it didn't mean any of those things until pretty much January 6th. Prior to that it was just a nationalist/populist movement, and was largely supported by people who felt like they were "losing their country". Which wasn't unique to America btw. Similar movements were happening all over the world.
What most people call Trumpism is just QAnon conspiracy-theory crap, and Trump questioning the validity of the election results. Which again, wasn't unique to Donald Trump. Stacey Abrams, Hillary Clinton, among others, were questioning the legitimacy of election results, especially with the increased use of the mail-in ballot from the pandemic. Had Trump not lost, there would have been riots all over the country.
The support for Trump was more desperation than love. His biggest supporters were evangelicals who had nothing in common with Trump, but who felt compelled to defend him as their only means of stopping the direction this country is going, or to reverse its course.
Furthermore, Trump NEVER tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power. The media spent four years making him out to be a fascist dictator. If that were true, he would be president right now. Trump wasn't authoritarian, he was incompetent. He was a coward who never used the authority he had to do anything. He was the most feckless dictator in history.
Trump could have uttered one sentence and the country would have immediately been thrust into a Civil War. But he didn't. Why?
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Trumpism is a flash in the pan populist movement that's fading.
Donald Trump is just a wannabe Pat Buchanan. The Trump platform was just the Pat Buchanan platform from 1992. Pat Buchanan was a man ahead of his time. He warned us what was coming but we didn't listen. Trump got more attention in large part because of the force of personality, and because the immigration, economic, and cultural shift that was barely noticeable back in 1992, has become clear to everyone. But while Pat Buchanan is a historian. Trump is a blowhard who knows nothing.
Trump has done more to damage conservatism than any Republican or Democrat ever. Conservatives would have been 10x better off electing Hillary Clinton. That doesn't mean he was wrong on the issues that matter, but he wasn't the right man.
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These 2 things alone will probably shift things dramatically back to the right.
Having a Democrat as president will mobilize the right and swing the pendulum. But in the long-run the trajectory will remain the same.
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Why is the crazy happening? Imo its a result of a more secular society, and apparently the communism arises from liberalism if there was any doubt.
And where does liberalism come from? Where does that come from? And that? And that? And that? Basically, what is the root? What is the fundamental cause?
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If the crazy people see a few of their communist Gods like twitter and facebook tumble.
Twitter and Facebook ARE NOT communist. No corporation is communist. The closest approximation to what Facebook is, is globalist. They do business all over the world, with every race, with every government, with every people, with every gender, with every religion, with every culture, in every language. There is no such thing as an American corporation, or a German corporation, or a Chinese corporation. All corporations are by their nature international. They only pretend to be national, or to show any loyalty to one country or another if it benefits them, if they can use it to their advantage.
Capitalism is globalism. It is capitalist countries being overrun by mass-immigration. It is capitalist countries being ruled by crazies. Communist countries are extremely conservative.
Ironically, the true enemy of conservatism is democracy and capitalism. But conservatives are too stupid to see it.
"Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains." - Thomas Jefferson
Cut out the cancer that is Trump and his devotees. Trump and his ilk are like having cancer of the stomach when you are obese, it causes you to lose weight and you are happy because you are getting what you wanted, major weight loss. You fail to consider that this cancer is actually killing you even though you look better than you have in years. What you really need to do is cut out the cancer and deal with the effect of freeing yourself from that cancer will wreck on you body. It may take a while but once you are free you can work on repairing your health and accomplish your goals as a result.
In other words, just shun, cancel, get rid of, demonize, or just flat out make the lives of the 74,000,000 (or roughly 49% of the eligible American voting population) that voted for Trump completely miserable? That's your "unifying" solution? You really think that's the way to "heal" this country? If you think getting rid of Trump "devotees" (which probably in your eyes means anyone that didn't vote for Biden or any of those horrible monsters that...gasp...dared to reluctantly vote for Trump) is a realistic, morally viable "solution" than this country is in WAY more trouble than most of us even dared to fear.
Here's a wild idea for unity...how about Trump haters stop suggesting that all 74,000,000 Trump voters (and the collective millions more of their respective non voting eligible children and family members) are "the cancer" that needs to be "cut out" and thrown away? How about recognizing the HUGE distinction between the 300 or so law breakers that stormed the U.S. Capitol building and the other 73,999,700 Trump voters who didn't and stop treating them as if they are ALL criminals or potential "domestic terrorists? How about empathizing with or at least TRYING to listen and understand these people's concerns instead of treating them as malignant cancerous tumors that need to be removed from society and thrown away? Maybe try that first instead of treating them as domestic terrorists or potential enemies of the state if you truly care about the health of the country. How about practicing some of that famed "tolerance" so many of you demand from those you disagree with but aren't willing to practice yourselves and doing so without threatening to cancel or destroy the lives of anyone that dares disagree with you or present you with an opposing belief or worldview? Is that a viable option or does everyone that voted for Trump or wasn't sufficiently outraged enough by him a lost cause to you?
I was encouraged and sincerely had high hopes for Biden when he made a much needed and what I hoped at the time was a sincere call for unity until his policy actions quickly went the opposite direction by insisting that any of the 74,000,000 Americans and by extension millions of these voters family members were potential domestic terrorists and treating them as such. Heck, it wouldn't even do any good if millions of Trump voters or even those that didn't vote for him but dared not buy the lie that he is the devil himself DID "free themselves of the cancer that is Trump" because at the rate the Biden administration is going after anyone even remotely sympathetic to Trump there won't even be enough undestroyed Trump voters left to "free ourselves" from when the Biden administration gets through with them.
The bottom line is that Biden's inspiring call for "unity" wasn't a true call for unity but a cynical demand for conformity to the left's way of thinking. In other words, comply or else. I could be totally wrong but it seems like you are totally cool with that. That's way more disheartening and demoralizing than ANYTHING Trump or all but the 300 or so terribly misguided Trump supporters who illegally stormed the capitol did or said the last 4 years.
Like the Salem witch trials, this current woke insanity may have to burn itself out. When enough people are denounced, the panic will lose its energy. History won't be kind to the wokies; they will henceforth be known as baddies.
Cut out the cancer that is Trump and his devotees. Trump and his ilk are like having cancer of the stomach when you are obese, it causes you to lose weight and you are happy because you are getting what you wanted, major weight loss. You fail to consider that this cancer is actually killing you even though you look better than you have in years. What you really need to do is cut out the cancer and deal with the effect of freeing yourself from that cancer will wreck on you body. It may take a while but once you are free you can work on repairing your health and accomplish your goals as a result.
At least 75 million people; you have your work cut out for you.
Good luck.
But if you are suggesting a divorce, then we can talk. Those of us who don't despise this nation will be much happier without the scourge of the Bidenites and their media keepers.
Like the Salem witch trials, this current woke insanity may have to burn itself out. When enough people are denounced, the panic will lose its energy. History won't be kind to the wokies; they will henceforth be known as baddies.
Yeah but I think this woke stuff was mostly created and perpetuated by the mainstream people in power. If they wanted it gone they would run an anti-wokeness campaign and it would be gone.
The Salem witch trials were largely shut down by the colonial governor of Massachusetts after he returned from an expedition. The democrats are in on the wokeness inside government and at the upper levels of the private sector both.
Make them live by the stupid they endorse.
Oh and laugh at them.
That is very important. They must be made to live up to their own rules. Of course they will then try to change the rules, so then their hypocrisy must be called out, repeatedly and vigorously.
That is very important. They must be made to live up to their own rules. Of course they will then try to change the rules, so then their hypocrisy must be called out, repeatedly and vigorously.
Agree. I do this all the time. All the times I see, which is all the time, the left applying a double standard and treating whites disparately the hypocrisy is pointed out. The left's rule is you can't say anything negative even if true about any identity group lest you are racist and offensive, and I'm holding the left to their rule.
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