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Probably because you've mentioned it about 50 times in the past couple of days on this website. And now you've mentioned it yet again.
No, this is the first thread I believe I have ever mentioned that particular time frame.
Maybe there might have been another thread or two on immigration a few years ago, or something where I might have referred to it, but I don't recall offhand. In either case, no, that particular time frame is not something I've mentioned much, if at all, until this thread.
How does importing millions of uneducated, illiterate, unemployed people who do not speak English to the US make us a "better country"?
Counter question, what percentage of immigrants to USA from Latin America are illiterate? Do you actually know or are you yet another person just making assumptions about them?
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009
If these individuals are the key to a nation's prosperity, why does Guatemala, Mexico and Nicaragua not have a higher standard of living and greater GDP per capita than the US?
Vietnam has a lower standard of living than USA too, I have trouble of thinking of any who work as hard and achieve so much within two generations as contributors to USA economy. Chinese are probably a close second, also with a much lower standard of living.
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009
What are the chances of such people gaining employment in an economy that increasingly demands higher levels of technical education and degrees for employment?
If their chances were poor they wouldn't come. You going to go pick tomatoes?
Counter question, what percentage of immigrants to USA from Latin America are illiterate? Do you actually know or are you yet another person just making assumptions about them?
Fortunately, I have already answered that question for you:
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007
And BTW, the notion that these Latin American immigrants are all illiterate is ridiculous. I'd be willing to bet the immigrants from Mexico and Central America these days have higher literacy rates (and possibly also educational levels) than European immigrants from 1850-1920.
Literacy rate by country
Mexico - 95.40%
Guatemala - 81.50%
Honduras - 87.20%
El Salvador - 88.50%
Even as recently as 1981 the literacy rate in Italy was 96.5%, which is little different from Mexico's current rate.
It's not even close to the same situation. We don't have enough jobs for Americans.....let alone millions of immigrants.
You don't think people were saying this in NYC in the 19th century when they were throwing tomatoes at the Irish, Italian, German, Poles, etc.
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Originally Posted by FatBob96
IAnd immigrants then were much more willing to assimilate into American culture.
Actually immigrants back then formed communities of like people, and immigrants today usually assimilate quite quickly. That's why we have Little Italy, Chinatown, etc.
That fool is pretending not to know the difference between legal immigrants and illegal aliens. It is the latter we oppose not the former but in the numbers that we actually need not unlimited legal immigration in this day and age. As everyone keeps telling him our needs have changed greatly since 100 years or more ago. We were sparsely populated back then in need of nation builders, not so today!
The post is about people illegally crossing the border.
Exactly, who else would be illiterate and unemployed and coming here by the millions? Certainly not legal immigrants they have to prove they can support themselves and aren't illiterate! Who does that poster think he is kidding?
That fool is pretending not to know the difference between legal immigrants and illegal aliens. It is the latter we oppose not the former but in the numbers that we actually need not unlimited legal immigration in this day and age. As everyone keeps telling him our needs have changed greatly since 100 years or more ago. We were sparsely populated back then in need of nation builders, not so today!
As I have repeatedly said, a major reason why there weren't a lot of illegal immigrants back then is because it was so easy to get here legally. The fact that only 2% of people were turned away at Ellis Island tells you it was pretty easy to get in here. If it were as easy to immigrate here now as it was back then, most of those "illiterate, unemployed" people who cross the border illegally would be here legally instead, and people like you would still be complaining about them anyway and asking why they make the US better.
Exactly, who else would be illiterate and unemployed and coming here by the millions?
As I have already pointed out, most of those illegal immigrants are, in fact, literate:
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007
And BTW, the notion that these Latin American immigrants are all illiterate is ridiculous. I'd be willing to bet the immigrants from Mexico and Central America these days have higher literacy rates (and possibly also educational levels) than European immigrants from 1850-1920.
Literacy rate by country
Mexico - 95.40%
Guatemala - 81.50%
Honduras - 87.20%
El Salvador - 88.50%
Even as recently as 1981 the literacy rate in Italy was 96.5%, which is little different from Mexico's current rate.
And contrary to popular belief, a lot of illegal immigrants have college degrees! Though mostly those are ones from Asia, who probably just overstay their visas.
Unauthorized immigrants in the United States are better at speaking English and more educated than they were a decade ago, according to new Pew Research Center estimates based on government data.
In 2016, a third of unauthorized immigrant adults were proficient in English – meaning they either spoke only English at home or rated themselves as speaking English very well – up from a quarter in 2007. And the share of unauthorized immigrants ages 25 to 64 with a college degree ticked up to 17% in 2016, compared with 15% in 2007.
So we're even getting higher caliber illegal immigrants than we used to!
Interesting side-fact = the immigrant group with the highest percentage of college degrees is... Nigeria.
Apparently they aren't all princes looking to offload their savings.
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