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Old 03-11-2021, 01:43 PM
 
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I've never understood the aversion to background checks for guns.
We aren't suprised
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Old 03-11-2021, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Elections have consequences......Democrats are giddy at reducing your Constitutional Rights

Biden’s agenda to Californize the Nation

House passes bill to expand background checks for gun sales

Emboldened by their majorities in the House and Senate, Democrats are making a new push to enact the first major new gun control laws in more than two decades — starting with stricter background checks.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-ren...141831727.html

I actually have no issue with background checks.... what I want to see is the background checks to include mental instability




but the left will never add that, since the left is mentally unstable
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Old 03-11-2021, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I've never understood the aversion to background checks for guns.
even the NRA is FOR background checks... but the NRA and most reasonable people want the background checks to include mental instability.... something the left will never do
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Old 03-11-2021, 01:48 PM
 
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I actually have no issue with background checks.... what I want to see is the background checks to include mental instability




but the left will never add that, since the left is mentally unstable
As defined by who?
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Old 03-11-2021, 01:53 PM
 
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even the NRA is FOR background checks... but the NRA and most reasonable people want the background checks to include mental instability.... something the left will never do
Which is why the NRA cant be trusted.
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Old 03-11-2021, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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How does this help get the firearms out of the hands criminals ? Seems like Joe's "gun violence epidemic" agenda should be focused on certain cities across our nation, Detroit being one of them.
Instead, let's focus on the law abiding.

https://www.miheadlines.com/2021/02/...morning-video/

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/...-gun-at-woman/

https://www.miheadlines.com/2021/03/...-warren-woman/

https://www.miheadlines.com/2021/02/...-warren-woman/
It doesn't. The intention is to nibble away at the 2nd Amendment one piece of legislation at a time. The other is for political retribution. What better way is there to punish your political enemies than to find ways to criminalize their lawful activities and possessions?

Of course none of these laws will have any affect on the criminal and negligent misuse of firearms as we already have thousands of laws that address that. Along with thousands of laws that address every conceivable criminal act that one could possibly think of. If Democrats were really serious about violent crime then they would focus their energy on those that commit them. Good luck with that as it would affect one of their core constituencies.

It's quite obvious that Democrats do not believe in or support Constitutional Law. As it's the one thing that stands in their way in their quest for absolute power and control. They believe in majoritarian and authoritarianism. Having fought a revolution against tyranny, the founders of this nation designed and gave us the best system of governing in the world. That is if we can keep it. Why anyone would want anything different is beyond me?

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"There are only a few laws in history that are universally applicable. One of these is that the ruling classes do not want the peasantry armed. They will do what they can to convince you that to be armed is dangerous. They will attempt to do this while they themselves are surrounded by armed body guards. Idiots will not notice this hypocrisy and sycophants will ignore it. Fools will surrender their arms in the name of "safety". They will insensibly surrender their liberty at the same time. This is how slaves are made."
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"A pure unbridled democracy is a political system in which the majority enjoys absolute power by means of democratic elections. In an unvarnished democracy, unrestrained by a constitution, the majority can vote to impose tyranny on themselves and the minority opposition. They can vote to elect those who will infringe upon our inalienable God-given rights. Thomas Jefferson referred to this as elected despotism in Notes on the State of Virginia (also cited in Federalist 48 by Madison):"
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Old 03-11-2021, 01:59 PM
 
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I don't see a stricter background check for guns as a bad thing, and this is coming from someone that does support gun ownership and the 2nd amendment.
Until someone flunks the background check and the govt refuses him permission to buy the gun he wants.

Bye-bye 2nd amendment.
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Old 03-11-2021, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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even the NRA is FOR background checks... but the NRA and most reasonable people want the background checks to include mental instability.... something the left will never do
It's already illegal for people who are mentally unstable to possess firearms. It's also illegal to knowingly sell a firearm to anyone who is prohibited by both federal and state laws from owning one. Form 4473 lists all of those conditions.

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Form 4473 Question 21 f.
"Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution?"
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Old 03-11-2021, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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My big question, which by the way I have not seen one word about this is, who is doing the background checks?
The same people who are doing it now under the NICS system. One thing I have not seen one word about is whether federally licensed dealers who are in the business of selling guns will be required by law to run background checks for private transactions? Or at what cost to the private buyer or seller? For all intents and purposes a federally licensed dealer could charge whatever they please.
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Old 03-11-2021, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Most Americans approve of this. Do you own a gun? Do your friends own guns? Think about your friends now. Which one is most likely to be irresponsible with a gun? There is one, isn't there? Doesn't everyone know at least one gun owner who makes them nervous about their gun(s)? And these friends are probably legal gun owners. Do you really want people who are more dangerous than your least responsible friend to have guns? I don't.
If those people are that dangerous then they shouldn't have access to anything that could be used to kill or maim anyone. Why single out guns?
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