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Old 03-14-2021, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Wow. That cartoon is pretty tasteless on many levels.
That's Charlie. The magazine has always been savage in its satire, and everyone and every group of people is as much a target as anyone else or any other group.

Savage satire and mockery is an old part of the French heritage and tradition. It's ancient, and has been suppressed at various times in France's long history, but is a strong part of France's protected free speech.

Charlie Hebdo has taken it to extremes. It's what made the weekly magazine famous (and infamous), and why it became a Musilm target.

For Charlie, it was only Muslims today, tomorrow the Pope. Or the British Crown. it skips around continents and countries, and everyone is fair game for poking fun at in the worst taste possible.
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Old 03-14-2021, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Back in 2015, after the shooting at the Charlie Hebdo office, we all said "We're All Charlie". I wonder if we still said "We're all Charlie" after the more recent editorial toon they did on the cover of Charlie Hedbo involving Queen Elizabeth II and Meghan Markle? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...kles-neck.html
According to both Harry and Markle, the Queen has been extremely supportive and nice to them.

The alleged racism was also nothing to do with the Queen or Prince Philip.

In terms of what has been alleged, they suggest someone inquired as to how dark the baby would be, which given the fact that Markle isn't black (at best she looks tanned) and Harry is a pale ginger wouldn't be very dark at all.

They also alleged that Archie would not be given a royal title due to racism, which once again is nonsense.

Archie is white for a start and secondly as has already been pointed out titles are not given to great grandchildren, indeed most of the Queen's grand children don't have titles.

Princess Anne's children Zara Tindall and Peter Phillips don't have titles, whilst Prince Edwards children merely have reduced titles in relation to Viscount and Lady.

There are plans to reform the 'Royals', and to only allow immediate family members who are working royals to hold titles, something which seems very sensible.

As for the security, if Harry and Meghan want to pay for security, then Britain will provide it, however why should hard working British taxpayers pay for armed British police to fly to California to protect none working former Royals, who according to recent media reports are now worth over £100 million ($140 million USD).

It also should be noted that British police generallt have no powers in the US, and the Armed Royalty Security would not be able to carry guns on guard duties in the US, whilst in relation to hiring armed private US security why should Britain pay for it in relation to former non-working royals. Armed police are only allowed to carry guns on visits of world leaders and royalty and not as some type of permanent guarding duty, and this includes the US Secret Service.

The fact that these two were playing the racism card to Oprah Winfrey who is worth $2.7 billion USD and is a neighbour in California beggars belief.

Poor Meghan, poor Harry and poor Oprah, having to deal with all those hardships in life.

Do they not realise how patronising there comments seem to ordinary people, who now by and large dislike them and want them stripped of their titles according to recent polls.

The narcissism, entitlement and privilege that these two have displayed is stomach churning.

Harry and Meghan’s personal wealth ‘soars to almost £100m’ as Californian home rockets in value - Daily Mirror

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Old 03-14-2021, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Back in 2015, after the shooting at the Charlie Hebdo office, we all said "We're All Charlie". I wonder if we still said "We're all Charlie" after the more recent editorial toon they did on the cover of Charlie Hedbo involving Queen Elizabeth II and Meghan Markle? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...kles-neck.html
Everybody's always outraged about something.
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Old 03-14-2021, 06:34 AM
 
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This is a FRENCH magazine, in FRENCH language, intended for FRENCH people and FRENCH sense of humor.

So what seems to be a problem?


What about those that identify as French?
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Old 03-14-2021, 06:47 AM
 
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I don't see an issue with the magazine, it's meant to be outrageous and satire. Meghan acts like she is a victim, the cartoon illustrates how she would like to be seen to the world and it's ludicrous, which the cartoon perfectly represents. Race was never a big issue before with Meghan, but now she wants to be the poster child for the oppressed POC. Give Meghan another month and I wouldn't be surprised if she's comparing herself to George Floyd. With Disney, Netflix, and Spotify, she did get a bigger payout.
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