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Old 03-15-2021, 09:38 PM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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All of them? Are you sure?
Where did I use the word "all"?
But answer the question I posed...
Are we supposed to respect all 14 yr olds desires?
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Old 03-15-2021, 10:11 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Taratova
The government is overreaching into sexual problems with teens.. this is the parents rights and only the parents rights period.
Well seeing the US govt thinks they own the world,this isnt surprising....

Someone should at least try to overpower them!!

Last edited by jergesn; 03-15-2021 at 10:36 PM..
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Old 03-15-2021, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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I was responding to the OP's lock and load rhetoric. I have every right to defend myself against an angry bigot who thinks trans people are trying to corrupt children (my friends with children would find hilarious), and would seek to do me harm should I encounter one.
Agreed. You don't seem like an activist at all, and we shouldn't paint with a broad brush. However, the radical activists are the most vocal, so many assume they all are like that.
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Old 03-15-2021, 11:36 PM
 
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Well seeing the US govt thinks they own the world,this isnt surprising....

Someone should at least try to overpower them!!
Look at what happened on Jan 6th!!


Try that and you will be made to look like a domestic terrorist...and majority of the population will fall for it and demand you are punished...(this is how successful tyranny is today), they have found a sneaky way to get around 'freedom and liberty'...Its very clever.
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Old 03-15-2021, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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To clarify, you'd want to overthrow the Canadian government because a father won't respect his child's decision?

I don't have enough information about what actually happened to say much more about this story, but if a 14 year old felt they had to go to court to transition without their parent's consent, two things must be true. 1. They are very confident in the decision. 2. The parents are very un-supportive of their child.
Girl has identified as male since age 11. She has a history of attempting suicide.

Child began hormone treatment, with her mother’s consent, in early 2019, when she was 14.

All sorts of groups on all sides of this got involved when the father sought to stop hormone treatment.

The boy is now 16.

It has been estimated 0.6% of the US population identifies as a gender different than their birth.

Gender nonconformity has been around since ancient times. I don’t understand it.
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Old 03-15-2021, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I cant imagine anyone supporting this. I am not giving the federalist any clicks. There is a lot here, for the sake of argument lets put aside the transgender issue. The idea that a court would over rule parents is appalling but there are cases where that makes sense, medical treatments being one of them, there would have to be strong medical consensus of the necessity of the treatment. I do not think you can have that with gender dysmorphia, certainly transitioning now versus @18 is not a life or death, unless there is a history of suicide ideations even then to say the hormone therapy is a treatment for the ideations is a stretch and the only treatment at that. Yea, hard to justify it.

That is really the egregious thing here, not a fan of compelled speech but I thought Canadas thing was a very narrow subset, you have to keep doing it and almost prove ill intent.
The parents were not in agreement.

Reportedly, the child has identified as male since age 11 and has attempted suicide. Mother consented to hormone treatment when the child was 14 in 2019.
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Old 03-15-2021, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Florida
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What is most ludicrous is that we now have an entire system that thinks hormones and gender surgery are better options than mental health counseling. How did we get to this point?
I bet there is a correlation between these government agencies and them getting kickbacks from big pharma by forcing their drugs on the population. And what better way to do it than forcing it on kids who are easily indoctrinated and brainwashed.
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Old 03-15-2021, 11:57 PM
 
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Let's clarify. After seeing this thread, I read the court decision. This child was born female, but had been living as a male for years before this took place, and had gone through therapy. The mother supported and signed off on the treatment in question. When the father was informed of the treatment, he didn't even go to the clinic to discuss with the doctors. At what point does the father start to listen to the mother and his child, and at what point do we consider the mother and child's decision over the father's?
ahh... now you are into details and facts. Since when do those matter?
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Old 03-15-2021, 11:58 PM
 
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Shame on all people who think this father is wrong.
Did you read the court transcripts which another poster did?
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Old 03-16-2021, 01:42 AM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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The parents were not in agreement.

Reportedly, the child has identified as male since age 11 and has attempted suicide. Mother consented to hormone treatment when the child was 14 in 2019.
So we know the kid has mental illness. Rather than screw up the kid further with hormones, why not do therapy to get them healthy mentally.
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