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Old 03-15-2021, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Interestingly, it wasn't NorthFace who made this public, and they're refusing to comment specifically about their decision. It was the oil company that made this a public thing.

No one would have noticed if the Oil Company wasn't wearing NorthFace jackets if they hadn't blabbed it themselves.
I never thought I would see the day when a liberal would say that victims of discrimination should keep silent!
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Old 03-15-2021, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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I never thought I would see the day when a liberal would say that victims of discrimination should keep silent!
HA! Of course they would. If it weren't for double standards, many libs would have no standards at all.
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Old 03-15-2021, 08:28 AM
 
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Why is making decisions based on your moral beliefs now called "virtue signaling"? Was it "virtue signaling" in the past if you chose not to join a book club because they were a bunch of gossips, or you didn't allow your kids to play at certain friend's houses because the parents were druggies? Was THAT also virtue signaling, or just taking care to associate with people you could trust and value?

Interestingly, it wasn't NorthFace who made this public, and they're refusing to comment specifically about their decision. It was the oil company that made this a public thing.

No one would have noticed if the Oil Company wasn't wearing NorthFace jackets if they hadn't blabbed it themselves.
Even though I do believe like one poster said, using oil fuel to drive their cars, fly their products is hypocritical,it is their business and has a right to sell or not to sell their product.
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Old 03-15-2021, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Meanwhile Northface employees get in their gasoline powered cars to drive to work, school, grocery store, football practice, doctor’s office, convenient store, etc.

And all their Northface products are shipped via planes, trains, trucks and ships powered by you got it, gasoline.

Hey Northface, why don’t you stop using gasoline altogether? That would make a stronger statement than not selling to an oil company, which is only selling stuff people and companies like Northface that wants and needs it.

To answer the OP, yes it is absolutely virtue signaling. Sadly, many Leftists lap virtue signaling all up because it makes them feel good.
Because the centerpiece of Leftism is Feelings and Emotion. Not REALITY. They live in a little comfy fantasy world.

Northface largely makes consumer crap now anyway. Not anything true outdoorsmen want.
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Old 03-15-2021, 08:31 AM
 
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Why is making decisions based on your moral beliefs now called "virtue signaling"? Was it "virtue signaling" in the past if you chose not to join a book club because they were a bunch of gossips, or you didn't allow your kids to play at certain friend's houses because the parents were druggies? Was THAT also virtue signaling, or just taking care to associate with people you could trust and value?

Interestingly, it wasn't NorthFace who made this public, and they're refusing to comment specifically about their decision. It was the oil company that made this a public thing.

No one would have noticed if the Oil Company wasn't wearing NorthFace jackets if they hadn't blabbed it themselves.
North Face was probably too embarassed to respond... most of their product line is made of petroleum by-products.
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Old 03-15-2021, 08:45 AM
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I never thought I would see the day when a liberal would say that victims of discrimination should keep silent!
I'm not liberal, and I'm not suggesting the Oil Company keep silent.

I'm saying it's hard to claim NorthFace is "virtue signaling" when they're not the ones making this decision public. Don't see a lot of "signaling" there.
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Old 03-15-2021, 08:46 AM
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North Face was probably too embarassed to respond... most of their product line is made of petroleum by-products.
Since they're not saying, it's hard to know exactly what NorthFace's beef was with this particular oil company. Obviously, within the business, there are companies that are more environmentally conscious, and companies that are less environmentally conscious. NorthFace didn't make a statement that they will not do business with the Petroleum industry.
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Old 03-15-2021, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Sandusky, Ohio
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....added North Face to the burgeoning list of companies that will no longer benefit from my income.
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Old 03-15-2021, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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And yet, fossil fuels are used in the manufacturing of their jackets. Hell, by being in the business of manufacturing clothing, and shipping it around the world North Face is polluting the planet. Geez, these freaking people, they think only their **** doesn't stink.



EXACTLY.

I think boycotts are misguided and virtue signaling has made it worse but money is GREEN.

Ahh the good old days when a company produced a product and sold it to whomever wanted to buy it.



I guess in the case of North Face they want to project a clean outdoor living lifestyle but there is that pesky fact that oil is used in the manufacturing and delivery of their products plus the climate controlled stores where they are sold.

Hypocrites? Maybe.



Imagine the riots that would ensue if North Face refused to sell 400 jackets to say a chapter of the new Black Panther movement because the group did not fit the companies outdoor "image"?





Why is it ok to discriminate against one group but not another?
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Old 03-15-2021, 08:51 AM
 
Location: On the phone
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Meanwhile Northface employees get in their gasoline powered cars to drive to work, school, grocery store, football practice, doctor’s office, convenient store, etc.

And all their Northface products are shipped via planes, trains, trucks and ships powered by you got it, gasoline.

Hey Northface, why don’t you stop using gasoline altogether? That would make a stronger statement than not selling to an oil company, which is only selling stuff people and companies like Northface that wants and needs it.

To answer the OP, yes it is absolutely virtue signaling. Sadly, many Leftists lap virtue signaling all up because it makes them feel good.
I feel the same way about Subaru, the car screams “look at me I’m a bleeding heart Liberal” yet they are burning fossil fuel every time they drive. Go figure.
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