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Old 03-18-2021, 09:08 AM
 
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I thought Planned Parenthood offered free sterilization or for a sliding scale fee. In the '80s my friend moved to San Francisco. She was in her late twenties and got a tubal ligation. Maybe PP stopped because they couldn't make money selling baby parts if no babies were being created.
There are women who go from doctor to doctor and are refused tubals. They are told they might change their mind.

 
Old 03-18-2021, 10:56 AM
 
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I thought Planned Parenthood offered free sterilization or for a sliding scale fee. In the '80s my friend moved to San Francisco. She was in her late twenties and got a tubal ligation. Maybe PP stopped because they couldn't make money selling baby parts if no babies were being created.
I'm sure there have been some PPs that did perform tuba ligations but its not anything that is done routinely.
I had mine done in 1983 after the birth of my second. It definitely was not free. At that time it was nearly impossible for any single woman under 30 or without 2 kids to get a doctor to do a tubal. I dont think it is much easier today. There is more money to be made in pregnancy and childbirth than in tubal ligations and birth control.

It a lot easier and cheaper for a guy to get a vasectomy.
 
Old 03-18-2021, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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How about we stop letting anyone into the USA that wants to be here.
If you can’t reproduce why are you here?
 
Old 03-18-2021, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Here
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If you can’t reproduce why are you here?
That sound like a question relating to biology. So you are right, biologically speaking. If a living organism cannot reproduce, then in one context, there is no reason for the organism to exist. In the greater picture, the organism does have a roll to play in the ecosystem whether it can reproduce or not. It can provide food and have other benefits to the environment.
 
Old 03-18-2021, 11:26 AM
 
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I guess I would be fine with dying at 70 or so. I am a big proponent of euthanasia. If someone is in their 70's or 80's and their health is deteriorating day by day, life is over, they will never become young again. Their life is over. And I want to decide when that is the case.

Of course I am against ending someone's life against their will.


Regarding the planet, it would make a big difference if we all downsized a lot while still young or middle-aged. You know, simply produce less, buy less, use less, dispose of less. We should find a way to cut our footprint by 75% without feeling like going back to the stone age
 
Old 03-18-2021, 11:36 AM
 
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Plus,
How about hospice care and a DNR, instead of medical treatment after 80?
There is an astronomical cost and burden on healthcare and on tax payer to pick the tab on geriatrics medical care.

I know it’s tough but IMO, if someone has lived a good 80 odd years then I think it’s good enough.

Shouldn’t drag it any longer by being on life support tubes or being in coma or being moved around like a sandbag on wheel chairs? IMO, it’s a very lonely and miserable life.
You lived a good 80 years, it’s good enough. It’s time for a peaceful transition.
Fortunately, you can’t make it policy.
 
Old 03-20-2021, 04:50 PM
 
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There are women who go from doctor to doctor and are refused tubals. They are told they might change their mind.
Reminds me of male gyns who told me my menstrual pain was all in my head and to take an aspirin. Like they were mind readers or something.

I was lucky because I found a female gyn who told me the same thing initially, but every few years I'd ask regardless. Finally, I developed fibroids and she said, "I don't have to ask you if you want a hysterectomy or not!"

What about women who change their mind after they've had kids?
 
Old 03-20-2021, 04:53 PM
 
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Best way to save the planet janet is to have a super bug kill around 5 billion peeps. The planet has been hot a cold many times over many millions of years dear.
 
Old 03-20-2021, 05:06 PM
 
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Best way to save the planet janet is to have a super bug kill around 5 billion peeps. The planet has been hot a cold many times over many millions of years dear.
5 billion except you, right?
 
Old 03-20-2021, 05:18 PM
 
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5 billion except you, right?
I never get a cold my man. I would love to be the only person left on the planet and plunder every house for money, gold and guns for fun.
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